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Hello all! I'm glad to finally have a place to share ideas with other vendors.

So, I was approved recently to remove some raw food and hazardous waste (diapers and nasty toilet) a few weeks ago and ran into a lots of rat/mouse droppings and odors. This house was horrible! However, upon removing said hazards, I realized after spending about 1 hour in this house, that it is highly unsafe to be in this house. I had a mask and gloves on, but needed something more like a hazmat suit!

In the future, how should I proceed with informing/bidding the preserve co. that in order to complete work, I will need much more safety gear which is part of the pricing (can't be losing money, here). Also, some places need a hazmat company to come in to handle the job. How do I do this and still get it approved and not lose the property altogether?

I hate losing properties because of health reasons...
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Hello all! I'm glad to finally have a place to share ideas with other vendors.

So, I was approved recently to remove some raw food and hazardous waste (diapers and nasty toilet) a few weeks ago and ran into a lots of rat/mouse droppings and odors. This house was horrible! However, upon removing said hazards, I realized after spending about 1 hour in this house, that it is highly unsafe to be in this house. I had a mask and gloves on, but needed something more like a hazmat suit!

In the future, how should I proceed with informing/bidding the preserve co. that in order to complete work, I will need much more safety gear which is part of the pricing (can't be losing money, here). Also, some places need a hazmat company to come in to handle the job. How do I do this and still get it approved and not lose the property altogether?

I hate losing properties because of health reasons...
Bid to have a restoration company to come in and give a bid. They usually charge anywhere from $500-3500 to do it. Ppe is always good to have and use. I do not put those on for free. It will cost them. You will need to have a hygienic test performed because if a house is that bad visibly, I'm pretty sure it could be worse in areas that you cannot see.
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Clyde, you have to be aware that some of the most hazardous items may not be things you can see. Crack/meth houses, 29 cats/urine in the floors, mold, asbestoes, even the dust in the air from one of those rat traps is being sucked into your lungs. We had a new guy get a staph infection during a trashout and ended up in the hospital. Gotta be smart.
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Clyde, you have to be aware that some of the most hazardous items may not be things you can see. Crack/meth houses, 29 cats/urine in the floors, mold, asbestoes, even the dust in the air from one of those rat traps is being sucked into your lungs. We had a new guy get a staph infection during a trashout and ended up in the hospital. Gotta be smart.
I worry about the FNG's who come into these situations. I would never wish this on anybody, including BO.
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Clyde, you have to be aware that some of the most hazardous items may not be things you can see. Crack/meth houses, 29 cats/urine in the floors, mold, asbestoes, even the dust in the air from one of those rat traps is being sucked into your lungs. We had a new guy get a staph infection during a trashout and ended up in the hospital. Gotta be smart.
AHH, put 2 cigarette filter in your nose an a clothes pin...an get'er done.
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AHH, put 2 cigarette filter in your nose an a clothes pin...an get'er done.
You're crazy. I wouldn't even let Obama on one of those jobs if we worked FREE FOR ME.
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1) Be careful if you ask employees to wear tight-fitting respirators, as you need to be aware of OSHA's requirements for a respiratory protection program.

2) Asbestos is more common than many people think,as it was used in materials as common as drywall mud up until the middle to late 1980s. The other most common materials which may contain asbetsos are stucco, sheet vinyl flooring, acoustic ceiling texture, HVAC ducts, vinyl floor tile, flooring, mirror, and other mastics, window putty, plastic roof cement, asbstos-cement flue pipes, and roofing felt. There are many others.

3) If you work on houses built before 1978, you need to get up to speed on EPA and OSHA lead regulations. Does RRP ring any bells? If not you could be crusing for a brusing - a painting company was just hit with an almost $4,000,000 fine just for paperwork violations!
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Hello Clyde, and hello thread,

Never do work that risks your own health. The banks, preservation companies and anyone else hiring you to do work should understand your need for PPE. My company specializes in the remediation of hazardous materials form homes and we bill accordingly.

If doing these jobs yourself, take several things into account while bidding. Cost of supplies, time spent in total, cost of disposal of these hazardous materials (including transportation), and the risks involved.

Always protect yourself, I recommend looking up OSHA, EPA and DTSC guidelines while handling hazardous materials.

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And one VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT thing!!

Make darn sure you have any state or federal required certifications! If some are required and you don't have it...You will be in deep doodoo.

It is YOUR responsibility to aquire certs and permits.

Many states require hazmat certs on many things so check with your state. Also check with EPA, FHWSA (US DOT) some things require a HAZMAT endorsement and proper containment just to transport a small quantity to a licensed facility. Things like the lead paint on the ceiling that is now laying in the living room or the asbestos shingles piled up in the yard.

That's why it is often the best choice to, as many have already said, bid to have a restoration company to come in and give a bid. They usually charge anywhere from $500-3500 to do it. They have the training, proper equipment and the proper certs and permits.
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And one VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT thing!!

Make darn sure you have any state or federal required certifications! If some are required and you don't have it...You will be in deep doodoo.

It is YOUR responsibility to aquire certs and permits.

Many states require hazmat certs on many things so check with your state. Also check with EPA, FHWSA (US DOT) some things require a HAZMAT endorsement and proper containment just to transport a small quantity to a licensed facility. Things like the lead paint on the ceiling that is now laying in the living room or the asbestos shingles piled up in the yard.

That's why it is often the best choice to, as many have already said, bid to have a restoration company to come in and give a bid. They usually charge anywhere from $500-3500 to do it. They have the training, proper equipment and the proper certs and permits.
I agree.
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