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It should, but someone who doesn't get it, won't be bothered by it.



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Its just phony outrage for most people. IM sure a few have a real problem with it but most people are only 'outraged' because its Obama. Besides, this kind of mistake didnt seem to haunt the other guy.
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It probably boils down to what you believe a person's general view of the military is to begin with.
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It probably boils down to what you believe a person's general view of the military is to begin with.
No doubt about it. Which is why the photo itself is basically meaningless. Most of the people who have a problem with the salute, already have an opinion formed about this President. No game changer.
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The pic is not a right of left issue, for me anyhow. Its his blatant despise for the Military in general, Which in turn has caused a total collapse in US foreign policy abroad.

His absolute take it or leave Withdrawal from Iraq will go down in history making Carter look like a saint. He was warned by Iraq's Nouri al-maliki and the Pentagon to leave some troops in-place, but he refused to listen.

Now he is sending troop back again because of his fail policy. His latest blunder with the bombing of Iraq and Syria is going to end in disaster to, his plan to is keep bombing until he leaves office. Kicking the can down the road for someone else to clean up. ISIS is a creation of Obama policy.

Obama behind closed doors. Quote:This outburst reportedly took place in the afternoon of last week just prior to the president’s departure to Camp David. It was an informal briefing on the expanded bombing campaigns to take place in both Syria and Iraq. Halfway through the already very brief briefing, President Obama stood up clearly agitated, and walked out of the room…The casually dressed Obama returned to the briefing moments later with a senior adviser alongside him, though his mood continued to indicate he was still very upset.

The senior adviser made a couple pointed remarks to the Pentagon representatives, reminded them the president had already had a very busy day, and then both she and the president once again left the room.

Within seconds, Barack Obama returned again to the just concluded briefing, pointing at the still seated Pentagon staff and indicating how “inappropriate” it was to “try and paint all of Islam with the same brush.” The president repeated similar remarks, his mood going from agitation to outrage. His voice carried to several other West Wing offices.

The senior adviser, who did not originally return with the president into the briefing, suddenly re-appeared alongside him, as well as the president’s personal aide. She was smiling, and telling everyone “we’re done here” which she repeated several times and then led the president back out into the hallway.


( Don’t you dare “…try and paint all of Islam with the same brush!”)
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Its just phony outrage for most people. IM sure a few have a real problem with it but most people are only 'outraged' because its Obama. Besides, this kind of mistake didnt seem to haunt the other guy.

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WOW..... you actually believe this dribble??? A sourceless, nameless, whacko right wing article is what you're posting as, fact???... WOW....

The biggest of the many problems with your reasoning is that it ignores the fact that Maliki is the one who refused to sign a new Status of Forces agreement. We dont just put troops where we want them. The hosting government must agree to it.

We all can find things on the internet that tell us what we want to hear. But I just think searching for the truth is so much better.


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This month, American officials pressed the Iraqi leadership to meet again at President Talabani's compound to discuss the issue. This time the Americans asked them to take a stand on the question of immunity for troops, hoping to remove what had always been the most difficult hurdle. But they misread Iraqi politics and the Iraqi public. Still burdened by the traumas of this and previous wars, and having watched the revolutions sweeping their region, the Iraqis were unwilling to accept anything that infringed on their sovereignty. [The New York Times,10/21/11]

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But ending the U.S. troop presence in Iraq was an overwhelmingly popular demand among Iraqis, and Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki appears to have been unwilling to take the political risk of extending it. While he was inclined to see a small number of American soldiers stay behind to continue mentoring Iraqi forces, the likes of Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, on whose support Maliki's ruling coalition depends, were having none of it. Even the Obama Administration's plan to keep some 3,000 trainers behind failed because the Iraqis were unwilling to grant them the legal immunity from local prosecution that is common to SOF agreements in most countries where U.S. forces are based. [Time, 10/21/11]

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But talks ran aground over Iraqi opposition to giving American troops legal immunity that would shield them from Iraqi prosecution. Legal protection for U.S. troops has always angered everyday Iraqis who saw it as simply a way for the Americans to run roughshod over the country. Many Iraqi lawmakers were hesitant to grant immunity for fear of a backlash from constituents.

"When the Americans asked for immunity, the Iraqi side answered that it was not possible," al-Maliki told a news conference aturday. "The discussions over the number of trainers and the place of training stopped. Now that the issue of immunity was decided and that no immunity to be given, the withdrawal has started." [Associated Press, 10/22/2011 via The Huffington Post]
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From an Obama 2008 campaign speech:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/15/us...anted=all&_r=0

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To achieve that success, I will give our military a new mission on my first day in office: ending this war. Let me be clear: we must be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in. We can safely redeploy our combat brigades at a pace that would remove them in 16 months. That would be the summer of 2010 – one year after Iraqi Security Forces will be prepared to stand up; two years from now, and more than seven years after the war began. After this redeployment, we’ll keep a residual force to perform specific missions in Iraq: targeting any remnants of al Qaeda; protecting our service members and diplomats; and training and supporting Iraq’s Security Forces, so long as the Iraqis make political progress
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He's always planned to leave a residual force. But Iraq would not renew the status of forces agreement. If you must blame someone for ISIS, it would seem Maliki and the Iraqi government who refused our initial offering of help would be to blame. Blaming Obama is just a sympton of Obama Derangment Syndrome, and like you said,its not a left or right issue for you. Right?..
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Trey, it is true that Maliki was under a lot of pressure from Iraq's top Shiite clerics to get the troops out, and it’s also true that Obama played up the complete withdraw of troops from Iraq, which he campaigned on. Never mind the fact that Bush predicted that Iraq would fall back again in to chaos after the troops left. Maliki was under no illusion that he couldn’t hold the country together without troops on the ground, at that time US had major power over Iraq plus had a major monetary card that Obama refused to play, billions was being poured into that country.


But then again who could possible believe anything thing that come out the mouth of Obama, If you like your “Doc you can keep your Doc”, “your health care policy will go down not up” the list goes on and on.
He was warned over a year ago ISIS was on the march and did nothing …
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Trey does this statement sound out of Obama character… “inappropriate” it was to “try and paint all of Islam with the same brush.” This after he spoke in the U.N yesterday and said Islam is a religion of peace to the whole world. I think Islam didn’t get that memo.


Let’s look at some of our dear leaders choices, He gives Hamas 100 million to rebuild Gaza, and where does the money go, to build tunnel’s, build rockets, arm terrorist, to teach children to strap bombs to their chest. Let’s not forget him a sleep at the wheel and tells the military to stand down while our embassy is under attack in Benghazi.


More…
He let the IRS target political enemies


He sent his national security adviser on five talk shows to lie about the attach in Benghazi


He wiretap more than 100 reporters in order to find leaks that might harm him
First President to Violate the War Powers Act (Unilaterally Executing American Military Operations in Libya Without Informing Congress In the Required Time Period {Huffington Post)


First President to Have His Attorney General Held in Criminal Contempt of Congress For His Efforts to Cover Up Operation Fast and Furious, That Killed Over 300 Individuals (Politico)


First President to Sue States for Enforcing Voter ID Requirements, Which Were Previously Ruled Legal by the U.S. Supreme Court (CNN)


First President to Sue States for Enforcing Voter ID Requirements, Which Were Previously Ruled Legal by the U.S. Supreme Court (CNN)


First President to Move America Past the Dependency Tipping Point, In Which 51% of Households Now Pay No Income Taxes


First President to Complete 150 Rounds of Golf in Less Than Five Years in Office (Yahoo! News)


A jaw-dropping list…


Yes November is going to be a Blood Bath this election, and yes his Foreign Policy mistakes are going to be far reaching problems for the US way into the future long after he is gone.


If you like your doc to can keep your doc, or if you like your head you can keep your head, or if you like your nukes you can keep your nukes.
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