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Hey guys, I've been doing landscaping for a while now. I eventually started doing just grass cuts for Safeguard but they want me to move into the full PP portion of it. I have done a lot of reading. I know about all the pictures, sending them in, most guidelines, etc. I do have some questions though.

I'm sure many of these answers can be answered by some threads but hopefully we can get these all in one thread.

How are winterizations done?
Do I just pour Anti-freeze that I've bought into the pipes?
I've read about using an air compressor to blow air through the pipes as well.

Lock Changes & Board-ups.
I was offered from one of the companies a Home Depot credit card to use but obviously this isn't the case for the bigger companies. Are all of these always bought on your expense and do you profit off of them? Obviously you profit on the service, but on the supplies as well?

What did you wish you knew when you started?
What do you think I should know, what do you wish you knew when you began. What did you have to figure out yourself?

How do you handle places with no house numbers or street signs?

Thanks in advanced!
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I have done a lot of reading.
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Hi Backwell. Please, read some more. A lot more. Then contact your local area real estate agent and have them put you in contact with a good contractor doing REO/P&P. Work for them, under them, alongside them and do not leave them. I'm saying this for your benefit and to save you from ruin; you are not ready for this business and a company like Safeguard will tear the meat from your bones and leave you to die.
Again, stick around this forum, read and learn.
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Exactly GTX!! SCREWGUARD LOVES inexperienced newbs..............
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The first and most important thing in order to get work is to get your vendor ID number. Have you gotten this yet?

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Hey guys, I've been doing landscaping for a while now. I eventually started doing just grass cuts for Safeguard but they want me to move into the full PP portion of it. I have done a lot of reading. I know about all the pictures, sending them in, most guidelines, etc. I do have some questions though.

I'm sure many of these answers can be answered by some threads but hopefully we can get these all in one thread.

How are winterizations done?
Do I just pour Anti-freeze that I've bought into the pipes?
I've read about using an air compressor to blow air through the pipes as well.

Lock Changes & Board-ups.
I was offered from one of the companies a Home Depot credit card to use but obviously this isn't the case for the bigger companies. Are all of these always bought on your expense and do you profit off of them? Obviously you profit on the service, but on the supplies as well?

What did you wish you knew when you started?
What do you think I should know, what do you wish you knew when you began. What did you have to figure out yourself?

How do you handle places with no house numbers or street signs?

Thanks in advanced!
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Hey guys, I've been doing landscaping for a while now. I eventually started doing just grass cuts for Safeguard but they want me to move into the full PP portion of it. I have done a lot of reading. I know about all the pictures, sending them in, most guidelines, etc. I do have some questions though.

I'm sure many of these answers can be answered by some threads but hopefully we can get these all in one thread.

How are winterizations done?
Do I just pour Anti-freeze that I've bought into the pipes?
I've read about using an air compressor to blow air through the pipes as well.

Lock Changes & Board-ups.
I was offered from one of the companies a Home Depot credit card to use but obviously this isn't the case for the bigger companies. Are all of these always bought on your expense and do you profit off of them? Obviously you profit on the service, but on the supplies as well?

What did you wish you knew when you started?
What do you think I should know, what do you wish you knew when you began. What did you have to figure out yourself?

How do you handle places with no house numbers or street signs?

Thanks in advanced!
Do yourself a favor and DO NOT do any wints! The chargebacks and plumbing damges that you will, and I repeat WILL be held liable for isn't worth it. You need to learn how to do them correctly. There is much more to it than "pour Anti-freeze that you bought into the pipes"

As far as locks go, don't waste your time at Home Depot, Menards. Lowes or your local hardware store. It takes too long to get them rekeyed to the correct keycode. I only stop there for really oddball key codes I don't stock. Yes they are bought at your expense and you don't "profit" from them. You will be given a set price and after subtracting the labor, material, overhead and PITA, then you get your profit. Some lock changes are loosers as you will drive 70 miles one way to find that the house is still occupied . Buy your locks online. There are threads in the forum with links to online lock companies.

What do I wish I knew when I started? I wish I knew how to avoid the P&P work and get directly to the repairs, hazard abatement, etc. As a licensed contractor, I'd rather replace roofs, repair vandalism, etc. It is far more profitable than mowing grass for Safeguard, or any regional, for that matter. Also, when I started, I wish I knew what I should have been making. HUD rates minus 20% can be a profitable grass cut. An MH landscaping $15 recut is not profitable, I don't care what anyone says.

By the way, I would avoid safeguard. I quit working for them over year ago. A regional I worked for, BACFS work, just started sending me SG stuff and I asked to be deactivated. SG is riduculous on their expectations for what they want to pay.......



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Can you give some examples of the things Safeguard requires that is ridiculous? Right now it's the main company I was going to work for because of the relationship a friend and his family has with the company. They have been there working with the owner of Safeguard since before Safeguard was even a company.

My friends family clears $700,000.00+ a year not counting expenses from Safeguard and every time I've spoken to my friend about it, he always talks about how important the pictures are. I'm sure it helps that one family member works in Safeguard sending the work orders and another runs a crew completing the work orders.
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If you have an inside contact then you should be spending time with them. You should be working for them.
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If you have an inside contact then you should be spending time with them. You should be working for them.
Unfortunately they've moved to a different state.
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I really think its best to find a local P-P company and work hourly for them first. It will give you a real look. Supply's are a huge expense, I don't see how you can make money there unless you have a source of second hand stuff from another line of work. With a contractor back ground I have a barn full of misc stuff, even then its not that great. Its smart to recycle everything you come across.

If your equipment is paid for you might make some money, around here the work is too cheap, the yards are very rough and the debris are heavy. Lots of damage to plumbing and windows, bid work is where its at.

I think your better off getting the proper docs and insurance, then go after rehab work by hard bidding. Avoid the 24hr rush orders and crap, avoid the circus if you can and you will have less stress. Buy good equipment, good tools and don't get in a vicious circle of low pay and no life.
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Unfortunately they've moved to a different state.




In that case the next best thing is to be a sub for them in your area.


Have them add your area to their coverage and they can help train you from their office.

This is not an industry that smiles favorably on the new guys. Heck it doesn't smile favorably on the experienced either.

Professionals are people who can do their job when they don't feel like it.
Amateurs are people that can't do their job even when they do feel like it.
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