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Why do so many contractors whine constantly?

So many people on this forum seem to be constantly whining and complaining about nationals, not getting paid enough, how hard the work is, etc. Not trying to be an asshole but if you don't like the company then stop working for them.

The majority of the threads have multiple complaints in them. This site should be PP Complaints.com
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We don't work for most of them anymore. So I use this forum to help new guys like yourself avoid the pitfalls and mistakes I and others made.
It is a fact that this industry is cut throat and ripe with crooks; thus the frequent negativity. It isn't for everyone, just saying...
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dude that so negative
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Yes, but he means well...
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Yeah, I'm not trying to troll or anything. I do understand the reasons behind most complaints. I was just curious why it's such a big topic to talk about. I've been contracting my whole life and always have problems but just took it as they came.

I do understand their need for pictures and to make a profit. I was excited to get into this business and work hard but seeing all these posts take the simplified ideas on how to get through each job and have caused them to be over complicated I think.
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We build em, rehab em, flip em, maintain em on the private side. Totally different animal. We're just like any plumber, mason, framer, etc.
Finish the job, get a check.
REO/P&P is unique unto itself. It only looks similar from a distance.
Biggest headache on the private end is finding and keeping good help.
Biggest headache on the REO/P&P end? Crooks, late/shorted/no pays, unqualified employees of clients, poor communication, unreasonable expectations, yada, yada, yada...
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The idea behind all of the neg posts is to learn and be smarter for it.
Not every P&P guy gets screwed every single day but it is too common to be ignored.
The electrician who wires Joe Bob's house and gets d*cked around on his payment is the exception.
The REO guy who has to chase his money from a national is the rule.
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I see exactly what you're saying. I do think if you're able to manage the Nationals, keep your payments consistent, and take good pictures then it's worth the hassle. They have so much work all year round, it's really hard to beat.
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I see exactly what you're saying. I do think if you're able to manage the Nationals, keep your payments consistent, and take good pictures then it's worth the hassle. They have so much work all year round, it's really hard to beat.
In a perfect world, that would be true.
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My 2 Cents

I don't consider all of it to be whining. A good portion of it I take as being realistic. All the chargebacks, cut bids, picture drama, etc is just common facts of the industry. I believe too many people interpret it as whining as opposed to seeing the knowledge that is being spelled out right in front of their face. It is tough for the dwindling number of old school contractors to constantly be bombarded with the get rich contractors, clueless contractors, and the occasional recruiter to give all the free advice to all these new guys trying to get in. If I had a new preservation company started in my town would I just hand over free advice and give away all the contacts of my good clients so they could get work. Hell no!!! These duct tape truck contractors need to understand this harsh advice on this forum is a good dose of the reality of this dwindling industry. Let the insults begin.
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