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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-17-2016, 08:33 PM Thread Starter
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In the future when faced with a choice

between, getting my trip charge for a bid, and placing a padlock on an unsecured door, to make $1 less. I will place a padlock, take a picture of it remove it and put it back in my truck. That is such a messed up policy. Get paid less to actually do something, than to do nothing, and do the bid for free. They can all kiss my a#$.

This is the last time I act in a conscientious manner for any of these scammers.
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Trip charges should be paid on every order on top of the price of the job itself to pay for exactly that, the trip.
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They should be, I knew I was doing a dumb thing

by doing the right thing. I think I am just fed up with this scam business to the point of hanging it up altogether.

After examining the thought of not doing a good job, or taking pictures of a lock, then taking it with me, I realized it just isn't worth it, and I'm not willing to sacrifice my self respect because "The Client" doesn't pay for trip charges or inspections if you do other work. Well let the client work with the monkeys who didn't secure the property, and caused damage to the property that sent me there to report/inspect in the first place. They deserve each other.

I've managed to not get burned for 5 years now, and had fun and made a little money, that's probably all a guy can hope for.
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by doing the right thing. I think I am just fed up with this scam business to the point of hanging it up altogether.

After examining the thought of not doing a good job, or taking pictures of a lock, then taking it with me, I realized it just isn't worth it, and I'm not willing to sacrifice my self respect because "The Client" doesn't pay for trip charges or inspections if you do other work. Well let the client work with the monkeys who didn't secure the property, and caused damage to the property that sent me there to report/inspect in the first place. They deserve each other.

I've managed to not get burned for 5 years now, and had fun and made a little money, that's probably all a guy can hope for.

I would put the padlock on and report it as work already completed by others. For the record a padlock should pay 40.00?
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I would put the padlock on and report it as work already completed by others. For the record a padlock should pay 40.00?
trip charge and inspection fee, because you secured the property. The problem is not the padlock that cost me $2 that I charge $40 for usually, the problem is the general principle, and the fact that the little guy in this scam has to lose every time.

In every other contracting arrangement when you order a service, you pay for the service, you don't hide behind the "our client won't pay for it" line. In my world that is an issue between you and your client, you should negotiate a better deal with your client.

The other part of the issue is, another contractor caused both the condition I was there to inspect, and did not secure the property, then I had to pay for it. I hate paying for my competition's errors.

Yes, I could have done some other things at the property, I could have drummed up some other charges, I could have thrown the f'n padlock through a small window and boarded it,picked it up, put it on took a picture and them put it back in my truck. I could have dumped my coffee in the toilet and reported it as soiled, and on and on.

All of this leads to the same questions we have to ask ourselves.

Is it worth it?

Does Wells Fargo really need my $2 padlock that bad?

Am I willing to act in a deceptive, dishonest way just so I can get paid for something they should be happy to pay for, like securing a wide open property and/or explaining to them why the property is being damaged?

Yes, I could screw them day in and day out, and then it would just be a game and matters of principle wouldn't matter at all. I really isn't about the money.
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I was at a $5000 shack a few weeks ago with my oldest son to bid some basement damage for the broker.
As I am reattaching this tiny combination padlock to a boarded rear door, crack head Cindy and her jail tats comes around the side of the house, and asks "Hi, are you here to show me the property?"
"Uh, no, I'm on a job and just leaving."
"Oh, well the bank told me I could come over and look at the inside of the house."
"Really? Are you meeting with the realtor?"
"No, they just said I could walk thru on my own."
"Yeahhh, well I can't allow access. Do you happen to know what the combination is to the padlock."
She looks down at a piece of paper and says "XXXX. I spoke to Slim at the number on the sign out front."
I'm thinking WTH! I locked it and told her "Okydokey. Have at it."
All the sign in sheets, the call from sites, the exf/gps data, etc won't do a thing about stupidity like that. I'm sure they will want a police report and follow up for insurance next month once they realize the copper and appliances are all awol.
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Just don't install a new lock while you are there

they won't pay for your report.
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This type of thing is EXACLY why I'm not in this business any longer. Life is too short to be worn down morally with having to make a living compromising your ethics to get paid. This kind of thing changes how you look at the world and leads one to accept things as OK that was and is fundamentally WRONG in the real world. I'm glad to have my integrity back even if it means making less $$$.
This whole industry sucks the best part of life out of you, from the slimy mortgages that were given to people that couldn't afford it to the low bidding sharks that service the banks that end up with the bad loan...These scoundrels will want you to do ANYTHING to make a buck then knife you in the back the first chance they get.
Good luck out there, don't lose your soul in the process.
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In their infinite penny wise pound foolish wisdom the

banks have created a backwards morally bankrupt incentive system, that actually promotes fraud and abuse and attracts the kind of people who thrive in that environment at all levels.
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banks have created a backwards morally bankrupt incentive system, that actually promotes fraud and abuse and attracts the kind of people who thrive in that environment at all levels.
Yeah, they just found a way to continue there past frauds.

They got the bailout and had to get more creative, THink about the fact that they have billion dollar profits every year, but have not paid back bail out funds, and do not pay the botg.
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