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How you feel about safeguard

Safeguard Requires a Million pics. If I rent a 26 ft Truck and you already know the measurement of the 26' truck They still want 1000 pics ,

FIRST 45 DAYS ARE TOUGH
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Safeguard Requires a Million pics....

FIRST 45 DAYS ARE TOUGH
Last year it was only 500,000. Get the "picture"?

Let me guess. 35-40 required pics on a simple grass cut/snow removal. Miss one and the entire invoice is denied. Right?

It is a simple game they play requiring an insane amount of pics that have nothing to do with the service you are performing. When you miss one required pic they pocket your money. Then they bill the client for the entire amount plus services you didn't perform.

If the first 45 days were tough, the next 45 will be miserable. Sorry, wish I had a brighter outlook but I've been down your road, and it's very bumpy.
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So, how we feel about Safeguard? Let me see and where do we start......
Ok, so, if you page couple of pages down and then some more, you will find out how we all feel about safeguard and then you ask yourself, why this reputable company had hired you when volume long time gone ?
We went up with them before foreclosure boomed as their existing guys were not keeping up with the volume, well these times long time gone for good.
You know why they hired you? You don't know any better and they will use you, abuse you and dispose you.
We were still getting charge backs year after we left them for work we did 4 years ago for not sufficient pictures. Good luck to that.
they tried to charge back one of their P&P guys for incomplete damage reporting on initial order where this property went through numerous insurance claims years over years over years and we had been there from few different companies for the same crap.
So why trying to screw the P&P guys, because they feel like it.
We dumped them while back and never look back. Run, just run. You feel first 45 days rough? Well, the rest will suck big time
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Last year it was only 500,000. Get the "picture"?

Let me guess. 35-40 required pics on a simple grass cut/snow removal. Miss one and the entire invoice is denied. Right?

It is a simple game they play requiring an insane amount of pics that have nothing to do with the service you are performing. When you miss one required pic they pocket your money. Then they bill the client for the entire amount plus services you didn't perform.

If the first 45 days were tough, the next 45 will be miserable. Sorry, wish I had a brighter outlook but I've been down your road, and it's very bumpy.

You are right 100 percent, 50 pics per lil fron you yard. Miss one photo and they deny the pay. Its already so low. Now they just changed CYDS which screws you even more . They want a Before During After pics all the measurements . Some jobs are really bad I had job lady had 30 cats and never cleaned the poop or urine in 5 years left all over the fllor. She just walked all over it barefoot. They wanted to pay only the base clean price .....

If you miss one photo out 2000 they want to give you problems.

Im really thinking like what did I get into...
You spend more time in gas and dump fees .

They want me to drive 1hr and half just to give a estimate on to repair a hvac system.

DUMPSTER FEES GOING UP AND THERE FEES GOING DOWN
ITS NOT ADDING UP

SORRY JUST VENTING LOL

ITS TAKE ALL NIGHT UNTIL 4AM TO UPLOAD AND LABEL ALL THESE DAMN PICTURES ,
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So, how we feel about Safeguard? Let me see and where do we start......
Ok, so, if you page couple of pages down and then some more, you will find out how we all feel about safeguard and then you ask yourself, why this reputable company had hired you when volume long time gone ?
We went up with them before foreclosure boomed as their existing guys were not keeping up with the volume, well these times long time gone for good.
You know why they hired you? You don't know any better and they will use you, abuse you and dispose you.
We were still getting charge backs year after we left them for work we did 4 years ago for not sufficient pictures. Good luck to that.
they tried to charge back one of their P&P guys for incomplete damage reporting on initial order where this property went through numerous insurance claims years over years over years and we had been there from few different companies for the same crap.
So why trying to screw the P&P guys, because they feel like it.
We dumped them while back and never look back. Run, just run. You feel first 45 days rough? Well, the rest will suck big time

YEAH THESE GUYS ARE TOUGH, WHO DO YOU USE NOW???
AND WHAT IF YOU DECIDE YOU HAD ENOUGH DURING THE FIRST 45 DAYS
I moved to work in this Zone and HAs already spent tons of cash, I lost 500 on my first job becuase it was so bad I had to have 7 guys help to finish.
And they didn't want to pay nothing extra
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My suggestion, sit down tonight with pencil and figure all your expenses and losses on jobs already paid out. Did I mention you'll need a big as$ pencil?

Then add up dollars (or pennies) that have been paid on those same jobs. Figure out how much time you spent on these. Include labor, shopping for supplies, uploads and closing out orders, book keeping time, job planning....EVERYTHING. Now, did you make ANY money per hour? How's a minimum wage job with no headaches compare?

If you think it's going to get any better, then type "Safeguard" in the search box below.

A more accurate search of Safeguard may look something closer to this: ##!&**#!!!**&**!!###@!!!**#!!!
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My suggestion, sit down tonight with pencil and figure all your expenses and losses on jobs already paid out. Did I mention you'll need a big as$ pencil?

Then add up dollars (or pennies) that have been paid on those same jobs. Figure out how much time you spent on these. Include labor, shopping for supplies, uploads and closing out orders, book keeping time, job planning....EVERYTHING. Now, did you make ANY money per hour? How's a minimum wage job with no headaches compare?

If you think it's going to get any better, then type "Safeguard" in the search box below.

A more accurate search of Safeguard may look something closer to this: ##!&**#!!!**&**!!###@!!!**#!!!


**** the workers make more then me and Im on the crew. Im better off just cutting grass on my own then working for them. right now im basically working 4.00 hr if i add it up the way you did
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**** the workers make more then me and Im on the crew. Im better off just cutting grass on my own then working for them. right now im basically working 4.00 hr if i add it up the way you did
Yep, sounds about right. Now, in your expenses did you figure any wear and tear on equipment? Miles on the truck? Computers? Phones? Data charges? Insurance?........the list goes on and that 4.00 hr. quickly turns into a goose egg.....or lower. Sucks, doesn't it?
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This thread should be made a sticky. Sums everything up pretty darn well.
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Safeguard your future with a minimum wage job... But in reality ALL of these mortgage service Co's are basically the same, a lot of pics and a free inspection with every grass cut. The only time it worked well is when I had a good regional rep that worked with me on issues I my have in the field and pretended to have my back. Trouble is that they shift these people around in house frequently every couple months so they don't get too cozy with their vendors.

I don't do PP work any longer but miss the work, it was interesting. Too many opportunities out there today to put up with the bull$hit required to make a living in this industry not to mention the HUGE liability you assume doing things that most of us aren't qualified, certified, trained or licensed to do... Besides that if your any good at this you will NEVER have a day off and it will eat you up.

I still hang here just to make me feel good doing the daily grind of a 40 hour week and having my life back. Good luck, if you do this job a lot of success will have to do with the territory you cover (density on grass cuts ect. ...)
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