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Mold remediation issue

So here we go again guys,

It's my belief we are all (most of us) taking a huge liability on providing the causes of mold at different properties, on top of the already liability of breaking into all these properties which don't belong to the banks yet. We have been forced by the Nationals to provide the cause of mold and in some cases we are guessing the cause of mold because the client does not want to approve a 3rd party mold bid or plumbing bid. We have a property right now, for the Nationals that we have been dealing with for months, for a Mold remediation. As usual we treated the property (bleach, kilz) the cheapest way, the client way. The mold came back as expected and now it is worse. We bid from the beginning to remove drywall and replace it but it was not approved (twice). Now they want us to replace all drywall at no cost (crazy). I need a couple of ideas from the experts here to answer the national, I already told them I will not complete at own cost because of the bids we submitted and were never approved. What do you guys think?

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I am no expert but from my personal experience if you bid it and or reported the issue multiple times, it is their problem they dropped the ball which is common place as they rarely pay attention to bids or job notes or PCR's. I had a property with a hole in the roof that I bid every two weeks for repairs etc...for three years...somebody woke up one day and went ballistic because of serious mold damage, rotten trusses, sheathing etc. I reported it and or bid it 72 times (completely true story) and it was ignored so ultimately any liability they tried to pawn off on me went away...as did the property...Good luck hope it all works out for you, it seems that preservation common sense or experienced people on the staff at the "Nationals" is disappearing.
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So you are openly admitting you bent your morals/ethics in exchange for a few pennies, and NOW after they pinned you in a corner it is an issue? No offense but you are getting exactly what many of us have been Crying Wolf about for years. It just pisses me off reading this post, straight n simple.
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I have been through similar instances with Screw-guard and the hand full of siblings, I put together all of the work order numbers, what I bid along with dates. I also sent them any proof of other contractors being there before me (always have a photo of the sign in sheet), if contractors were there prior to you and you can prove that you submitted bids simply tell them sorry this is not my issue, another thing I do is include in any bleach/kilz bids that I am not responsible for the mold returning if bids are approved, you can also google the proper way to re-mediate mold and send that to the national showing that bleach/kilz is nothing but a cheap mask. GOOD LUCK!!!
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As usual we treated the property (bleach, kilz) the cheapest way, the client way. The mold came back as expected and now it is worse. We bid from the beginning to remove drywall and replace it but it was not approved (twice). Now they want us to replace all drywall at no cost (crazy).

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You stated you are repeatedly doing work that you know is below standards for a typical middle man paper contractor that epitomizes why the industry has such a bottom feeding reputation, and you want advice on how to get your bids approved, meaning you plan to continue doing business with them.

No one can give you the answer you want to fit into that box.

I can only tell you that the better the client, the better you are.
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Well let me jump in on this

Florida requires ALL properties with any sign or indication of mold (discoloration) to have a licensed Industrial or Environmental Hygienist provide an inspection and a protocol in ORDER TO DO ANY REMEDIATION.

Once the protocol is completed a licensed (YES Florida Requires a LICENSE) to do any mold work with bonds, pollution liability and general liability AND a proper licensed General Contractor do all Demolition of any materials in excess of 6sf.

Once this is taken care of.... A licensed Mold Inspector can monitor the remediation and will issue a directive to the Hygienist that the property is ready for final 3rd party testing... AS required by law in Florida.....

MAN I love Florida!!! We just had a guy in Jacksonville doing monitoring for a Hygienist who has an office in Melbourne.

Now YOU may not love Florida if you actually just completed a "mold remediation" in the State since you have a 75% chance of being sued when the property sells since there is NO AS IS sale on a Real Estate Disclosure for Mold since it is a State Law for proper remediation. Not saying that its just how you did the job but as a State as a whole.... Lawyers refer to mold as Black Gold for a reason.

I'd suck it up and complete the job and move on and hope that nobody gets sick or consults an attorney....
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I did a property that the entire basement was covered in mold. The worst I ever seen. I was told by a nieghbor it was because the houses were built on land with a high water table and all the homes suffer from it. This house had been vacant for more than 7 yrs. so here I come into the mix. Company, can you treat it with bleach ? Me: did you get my pictures ? Company: yes, but 25 square feet is included in the flat fee. Me : did you get my pictures ? The ENTIRE basement, all walls, ceilings, floors are covered for a total of over 700 sguare feet. No, I won't do that. This plays out again and again. Last time in, and yes I wore a respirator on all my visits, I observed a lonely spray bottle on the floor. Seems like some poor soul tried to remedy a basement full of mold with a spray bottle.
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thanks for all the comments guys, well what can i say I wish we had a Union for the industry. I will stand ground and I will no complete at cost.
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You ****ed up and did it the half ass way you should be charged. You agreed to "fix" the problem but hacked away instead of staying away. Hopefully your insurance drops you after a 30k fix, maybe that will weed out the "I own my own business now" people
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You ****ed up and did it the half ass way you should be charged. You agreed to "fix" the problem but hacked away instead of staying away. Hopefully your insurance drops you after a 30k fix, maybe that will weed out the "I own my own business now" people
ar you referring to me??
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