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There seems to be a consensus around here that people don't want to help newbies due to fear of competition.

I AIN'T SKEERED! lol!

When we moved into our new building recently we met a company that does EXACTLY what we do and they work for FAS. It AMAZES me how little they know!

We have been helping them out with leads on other companies and places to order locks, tarps, etc.

They may even do a few jobs for me?

There is no reason to be a hater this industry is big enough for everybody to try only the strong will survive.

Strong competition keeps the Nationals pricing strong. If you have a weak competitor he most likely will be a low baller.
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Who have you read that stated they wouldn't help a new guy over the fear of competition?
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Who have you read that stated they wouldn't help a new guy over the fear of competition?
Not looking to call anyone out it just seems to be a popular opinion. There are mentions of it if you read recent threads.

I try to help all the newbies out I can. As a matter of fact we gave some locks and lockboxes to our newbie friends today to help them meet a deadline before a lock order could arrive.

My thoughts are that there are thousands of companies to work for and millions of properties I only want a slice of the pie not the whole thing.
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My feeling is there is a lack of patience on here with newbs who just want a list of good companies handed to them that pay well, and how to do work without doing any research of their own. Also with unqualified hacks that will work for scumbag companies for a sliver of what the jobs should be paying, and try to justify it.


We are in new construction, rehabs, flips, landscaping, pool installs, bla bla. The only time I was ever concerned with my competition is when buying investment property, because the good ones go fast and you make all your money up front. Everyone else, belly up to the bar....
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My feeling is there is a lack of patience on here with newbs who just want a list of good companies handed to them that pay well, and how to do work without doing any research of their own. Also with unqualified hacks that will work for scumbag companies for a sliver of what the jobs should be paying, and try to justify it.


We are in new construction, rehabs, flips, landscaping, pool installs, bla bla. The only time I was ever concerned with my competition is when buying investment property, because the good ones go fast and you make all your money up front. Everyone else, belly up to the bar....
I stay clear away from new construction, rehabs, landscaping, pool, etc. I never want to work for the public again! EVER! which is why I don't work for realtors.

I agree with you on investment property for sure if it is a good deal you need to keep it quiet. Otherwise people come in and run up the price.

I also agree that new people want you to hand them your best clients and that is not going to work for sure. I don't mind telling them what I know about a company but I do worry about creating more bad press for our industry.
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If the newbs want to work for HUD market prices not CL prices more would help them out.
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Agreed. What am I supposed to tell someone who is willing to complete initial service orders for $300? How to find county roads with no street lights to flydump?
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My feeling is there is a lack of patience on here with newbs who just want a list of good companies handed to them that pay well, and how to do work without doing any research of their own. Also with unqualified hacks that will work for scumbag companies for a sliver of what the jobs should be paying, and try to justify it.....
Preach on brother man I am all ears. On a side note any good companies you know of looking for contractors?
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Not anymore. We have been backing out of working for the Nationals since fall of 2010. I still get the emails from them all of the time and referrals from well intentioned real estate agents, but I think I have just had enough of the discounts and shenanigans. We made our money during the rush; now we just work for them one job at a time on our terms and with the locals.
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I tried to give the NEWBIES I have been helping a trash out and they tried to charge me way too much!

I guess that is what I get for being soft hearted.
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