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PPW / Pruvan / etc. Issues & Problems

Hey Everyone,

I would like to know what kind of issues you are having with the standard lot of preservation sites/apps. The PPWs, the Pruvans, etc.

What do you hate about them?
What do you love?
WHAT ARE THEY MISSING?

Trying to decide what will be best for my money and WHY.

Thanks for any input!!!
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Hey Everyone,

I would like to know what kind of issues you are having with the standard lot of preservation sites/apps. The PPWs, the Pruvans, etc.

What do you hate about them?
What do you love?
WHAT ARE THEY MISSING?

Trying to decide what will be best for my money and WHY.

Thanks for any input!!!
find work that you dont need a site or app or other hoops to jump through to submit your invoices, I have not problem attaching a photo or 6 to an invoice, but if I have to provide 400 in need to get paid for the home inspection

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Thanks charge back, I appreciate the input you've given.

Do you think that's possible with where the industry is going? I feel documentation is everything. With the number of photos and bids to be provided I feel a third party site will help me stay organized.
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Thanks charge back, I appreciate the input you've given.

Do you think that's possible with where the industry is going? I feel documentation is everything. With the number of photos and bids to be provided I feel a third party site will help me stay organized.
no I don't think it is possible right now in the pres industry, I was saying put the energy towards better customers, not cya documentation for bad ones

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I would strongly advise against molding your company and it's practices to conform to the requirements of national preservation hucksters.
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Thanks charge back, I appreciate the input you've given.

Do you think that's possible with where the industry is going? I feel documentation is everything. With the number of photos and bids to be provided I feel a third party site will help me stay organized.
The industry is not going the direction you describe. The nationals are. I turned in a $16,000.00 invoice yesterday with 11 pictures. An email with a zip file and an invoice.

We were contacted by a national for grass cut season this year. I guess I am out of touch I couldn't believe all the pics they expect for a grass cut. They called and asked why i hadn't taken their online training yet. I said because I don't need it. Give me a skills assessment I'm not taking a redundant training course. They said it's a requirement. I said Ok, I understand that but I'm not doing it. He replied I will need to talk to my boss.

I don't give a how that conversation goes.

By the time you purchase and pay a monthly fee on software, pay for the background checks, the E&O and GL, pay a processor, purchase and maintain all of your equipment. How much are you making out of a $45.00 grass cut? Do you know your TRUE costs? Your fixed expenses?
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I see... I guess I'm unaware of the different options giving work. I'm mostly aware of big nationals handling grass season, wints, etc. What are these businesses, that I assume are out of area from where the work is being done, willing to pay thousands for nothing more than a handful of pics? Not trying to be critical, just curious as I would need more if I were paying that much out. Just picking your brain here.
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I see... I guess I'm unaware of the different options giving work. I'm mostly aware of big nationals handling grass season, wints, etc. What are these businesses, that I assume are out of area from where the work is being done, willing to pay thousands for nothing more than a handful of pics? Not trying to be critical, just curious as I would need more if I were paying that much out. Just picking your brain here.
not to be rude, but those of us who have found good customers are not likely to share who they are or how to find them because we had to work find them and bust our a**es to keep them happy. I continue to do pres work for a few good customers, but I think knowing what I know now, if I were starting over I don't think I would put the effort into finding them. I think a better ROI would be focusing on local customers.

The advice that you will get and wont be successful until you accept it is, do not set up your business to rely on nationals or regionals, you can profit from them when you can say no, but once you rely on them, you lose.

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I see... I guess I'm unaware of the different options giving work. I'm mostly aware of big nationals handling grass season, wints, etc. What are these businesses, that I assume are out of area from where the work is being done, willing to pay thousands for nothing more than a handful of pics? Not trying to be critical, just curious as I would need more if I were paying that much out. Just picking your brain here.

If you are in an area where nationals have work you are in an area where there is direct work.

How much do you pay aspen grove?

What does you processing cost?

How much is your insurance?

We had pricing sent to us from a direct client the other day that simply wouldn't work for us and I don't have the overhead most companies do. I know we can't do a grass cut for less than $65.00 and I know we can't make money on a trash out for less than $38.00 a cyd. Those are our fixed costs. That doesn't mean do every trash out for $38.00 that means try to get $65.00 a cyd but be willing to go down to 38.00 in a competitive situation.
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PPW or Pruvan

Hello everybody

Just trying to get some advice on what is the better software application, and does anybody have advise over one or the other, Is pruvan or PPW and or East Point Systems the better app to use in the field, thanks
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