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Does anyone know where I can get a copy of completed work orders? The vendor I work for is supposed to be taking 20-30%. I got a hold of a price list and have come to realize I am being screwed but I need valid proof and I really don't know where to go from here. TIA!
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the vendor told you they are taking 30% and you are coming to realize you are being screwed? I would have thought when they told you "hey I'm keeping 30%" the I'm getting screwed flag would have gone up.

As far as completed work orders, are you asking where you can find the invoices your vendor turns into the national?

where to go from here? market your skills to local customers, who will pay when the job is complete, and not keep 30% of what you are supposedly making.

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He's keeping way more than 30% and yes, the work orders/invoices that were turned into the national.
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My guess is that he will not be sharing them with you without being compelled to do so during some kind of legal action.

and depending on how far you are down the line, he may actually "only" be keeping 30% of what you are earning for him.

nationals advertise a price, lets say $100, but pay 1st guy in line with a 25% discount, so $75, 1st pays second guy $75 - 30% or $52.50, so even if there is only 1 layer between the national and the boots on the ground, the price is already almost 1/2 of the advertised price on the

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If you feel taking 30% off the top for simply forwarding a work order to a sub is too much, you are probably right. Many contractors continue to agree to those terms though.
If you think the national is taking 30% from you and marking up your invoice to their client for even more of the gravy, that also happens quite a bit. It is also legal so I doubt you'll be seeing those invoices except thru their own error.
When subbing to nationals, you are on their field, playing their game with their ball by their rules with their refs and they charge you to get in. See how that works?
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He's keeping way more than 30% and yes, the work orders/invoices that were turned into the national.

It may be that he is keeping 30% of the %75 he may be getting from the overall WO's. The Nat's take a cut before they pay the Contractor. Usually %25. So, that %30 is actually more like %50 of the overall pay. Then add to that the original Invoice has the supplies paid for...but when it gets down to your pay it's not.

As for getting old work orders... He would have a hard time getting his back, never mind the Sub he hired to do them. I believe the Nat's actually tell you the WO's must be destroyed upon completion. The reason for this is anyone can open a work order in pdf and then edit them...

You should keep a spreadsheet on all work orders done, work done, and payments you believe you should get as well as what you were paid for each order. This way you can look back and see what's what. If you had that you could easily take the price sheet and compare to work done and see what's going on without the actually work order.
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Does anyone know where I can get a copy of completed work orders? The vendor I work for is supposed to be taking 20-30%. I got a hold of a price list and have come to realize I am being screwed but I need valid proof and I really don't know where to go from here. TIA!
Even if you could get ahold of this guy's WO's I don't think it would help you - AFS work orders do not include pricing, that is only listed on their internal web portal, FAStrack. There is a Total Amount To Be Paid line item on the top of each order, but that # is seldom accurate as it includes totals from "generic" items that often are included on a WO but not completed or invoiced. Without being able to access FAStrack and searching a properties history, your only other option is to trust the guy you're subbing from or quit his work & forget about it.

Iíve already told you more than I know.
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