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I wanted to give everyone a heads up on a company Pioneer Properties out of Delaware. They are a third party company for AIM, MSI, National Field Network and a host of other companies. We did some occupancy inspections for them in June and July and have not been paid. They keep promising payment and have a lot of excuses. They owe is a little over $1,500 and we are now getting ready to take them to small claims.

I spoke to and emailed someone at AIM, MSI and National to let them know that Pioneer wasn't paying, and guess what they must not have cared because they are still giving them work.

We have thought about getting a lawyer to go after the bigger companies because they are using a company that they know is not paying their contractors. Has anyone tried something like this?

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I wanted to give everyone a heads up on a company Pioneer Properties out of Delaware. They are a third party company for AIM, MSI, National Field Network and a host of other companies. We did some occupancy inspections for them in June and July and have not been paid. They keep promising payment and have a lot of excuses. They owe is a little over $1,500 and we are now getting ready to take them to small claims.

I spoke to and emailed someone at AIM, MSI and National to let them know that Pioneer wasn't paying, and guess what they must not have cared because they are still giving them work.

We have thought about getting a lawyer to go after the bigger companies because they are using a company that they know is not paying their contractors. Has anyone tried something like this?

Debbie Haynes
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Nope. My only concern is the company I'm directly contracting with - Could care less about their clients payment habits, QC BS, etc. I expect my clients to honor our contract regardless of what their clients do. And just in case, there are always ways to remedy whatever problems may arise between me & my clients .

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You have 6 months to place a lien on the properties. Mechanics lien This will get the main players attention and get you paid
Its inexpensive and you can do it yourself. It will send a clear message to mortgage company whoever it is
Beware 3rd party contracts. only recourse is the lien Had the same situation with a company that subbed from wells fargo,
Took a little time but i was paid..
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You have 6 months to place a lien on the properties. Mechanics lien This will get the main players attention and get you paid
Its inexpensive and you can do it yourself. It will send a clear message to mortgage company whoever it is
Beware 3rd party contracts. only recourse is the lien Had the same situation with a company that subbed from wells fargo,
Took a little time but i was paid..
This is usually an attention getter.
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This is usually an attention getter.
Funny how liens make the phone ring. . .
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Can you do this even if the home is occupied?
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Can you do this even if the home is occupied?
You mean after it has been sold and is now being lived in by the new owner?
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You mean after it has been sold and is now being lived in by the new owner?
Some of these were occupancy inspections and the owners were still living in the homes.

We will place the liens on the vacant properties we inspected - but I am not sure we can do file a lien on the occupied homes.
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Some of these were occupancy inspections and the owners were still living in the homes.

We will place the liens on the vacant properties we inspected - but I am not sure we can do file a lien on the occupied homes.
Check the law in your state but if you were ordered to do work by the note holder you should be able to place a lien I would think.
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I wanted to give everyone a heads up on a company Pioneer Properties out of Delaware. They are a third party company for AIM, MSI, National Field Network and a host of other companies. We did some occupancy inspections for them in June and July and have not been paid. They keep promising payment and have a lot of excuses. They owe is a little over $1,500 and we are now getting ready to take them to small claims.

I spoke to and emailed someone at AIM, MSI and National to let them know that Pioneer wasn't paying, and guess what they must not have cared because they are still giving them work.

We have thought about getting a lawyer to go after the bigger companies because they are using a company that they know is not paying their contractors. Has anyone tried something like this?

Debbie Haynes
TDH Services, llc

Problem is that all of those companies are almost insolvent. They will put out Pioneer as fast as they came in. Doesn't sound good for you Debbie, sorry. Start working on contacting the lender however that amount will not be taken seriously..
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