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post #1 of 45 (permalink) Old 04-15-2018, 02:19 PM Thread Starter
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I've been with this company Initial Secure for going on 3 years now. Everything has been peachy up until about the last year. Just this morning I got an email that my 10 CYD removal completed yesterday was adjusted to 6 CYD because they saw empty spaces on my trailer. Ya think?? My trailer it 7x16 feet long and can hold up to 20 CYD when full. I was only supposed to move 10 CYD. Of course they're gonna see open spaces! Yes I provided measurements. I put in a bid of $400 to rent a brush hog and clear 1.35 acres of land that is 24 to 32 inches high and recut it with an initial cut. They undercut my rental of $150 per day....$100 full day machine rental plus fuel and trailering to $60. $60 is the 3 hour minimum required by the rental company. That puts me at 45 mins to the property, and 45 mins back to the store and an hour and a half left to use the brush hog AND cut 1.35 acres. ON TOP OF IT, they added a whole bunch more work like debris removal, shrub trimming, vine removal, etc to EQUAL to my $400 bid!!!! I turned it down! Tired of this crap!! I completed a debris removal for $25/CYD to move 18 CYD into storage. After 30 days I was told to dispose of the personals in storage for a grand total of $50!!!! That's a total of $2.77 per CYD!!!!! I had to handle this stuff FOUR times. From property to storage, and from storage to disposal. PLUS an extra month storage for March because the month is not prorated by the storage company. I did charge $25/CYD for 18 CY, plus $107 for the additional month, plus $409 for a 20 yard dumpster for a total of $966. They balked at the price and said the work order is only for $50. Their rep argued with my for 30 minutes about the price. He came up with moving the debris onsite, like from exterior to garage, is $7.50 Their price. So I would make $60 and have $10 for disposal costs. WHAT??? I CAN'T EVEN BY A GARBAGE CAN AT MENARDS FOR $10!!!!!! Not to mention 18 CYD by their price of $7.50 is $135!!!!! Where does he come up with $60?????? Still arguing this one out, but I'm so tired of this crap!! I can go on and on and on here. Anyone else dealing with this crap????
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Meanwhile I've written up properties with CODE VIOLATIONS and not receiving ANYTHING back. I have a property with a tankless water heater hanging from the ceiling by coat hangers, a kitchen sink that dumps straight into the sewer line with NO p trap. Another with 5 feet of water in the basement. I first inspected the property in december and there was 3 inches of water and a bad check valve spraying all over the basement. I reported it as an emergency condition and that it needed to be addressed immediately. They told me to unplug the sump pump to stop the water flow and bid to correct. Which I did. Never heard boo back. They sent me back to the property in february to verify ICC and there's now 5 FEET of water in the basement. I bid for the pump out and correct the check valve and still haven't heard boo. I argued with their rep where are my bids?? I've turned in over $100,000 in bids over the last 6 months and he said it's not my concern, I should only be concerned about the work orders in my queue!!!! So tired of this crap!!!
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I've been with this company Initial Secure for going on 3 years now. Everything has been peachy up until about the last year. Just this morning I got an email that my 10 CYD removal completed yesterday was adjusted to 6 CYD because they saw empty spaces on my trailer. Ya think?? My trailer it 7x16 feet long and can hold up to 20 CYD when full. I was only supposed to move 10 CYD. Of course they're gonna see open spaces! Yes I provided measurements. I put in a bid of $400 to rent a brush hog and clear 1.35 acres of land that is 24 to 32 inches high and recut it with an initial cut. They undercut my rental of $150 per day....$100 full day machine rental plus fuel and trailering to $60. $60 is the 3 hour minimum required by the rental company. That puts me at 45 mins to the property, and 45 mins back to the store and an hour and a half left to use the brush hog AND cut 1.35 acres. ON TOP OF IT, they added a whole bunch more work like debris removal, shrub trimming, vine removal, etc to EQUAL to my $400 bid!!!! I turned it down! Tired of this crap!! I completed a debris removal for $25/CYD to move 18 CYD into storage. After 30 days I was told to dispose of the personals in storage for a grand total of $50!!!! That's a total of $2.77 per CYD!!!!! I had to handle this stuff FOUR times. From property to storage, and from storage to disposal. PLUS an extra month storage for March because the month is not prorated by the storage company. I did charge $25/CYD for 18 CY, plus $107 for the additional month, plus $409 for a 20 yard dumpster for a total of $966. They balked at the price and said the work order is only for $50. Their rep argued with my for 30 minutes about the price. He came up with moving the debris onsite, like from exterior to garage, is $7.50 Their price. So I would make $60 and have $10 for disposal costs. WHAT??? I CAN'T EVEN BY A GARBAGE CAN AT MENARDS FOR $10!!!!!! Not to mention 18 CYD by their price of $7.50 is $135!!!!! Where does he come up with $60?????? Still arguing this one out, but I'm so tired of this crap!! I can go on and on and on here. Anyone else dealing with this crap????
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I've been with this company Initial Secure for going on 3 years now. Everything has been peachy up until about the last year. Just this morning I got an email that my 10 CYD removal completed yesterday was adjusted to 6 CYD because they saw empty spaces on my trailer. Ya think?? My trailer it 7x16 feet long and can hold up to 20 CYD when full. I was only supposed to move 10 CYD. Of course they're gonna see open spaces! Yes I provided measurements. I put in a bid of $400 to rent a brush hog and clear 1.35 acres of land that is 24 to 32 inches high and recut it with an initial cut. They undercut my rental of $150 per day....$100 full day machine rental plus fuel and trailering to $60. $60 is the 3 hour minimum required by the rental company. That puts me at 45 mins to the property, and 45 mins back to the store and an hour and a half left to use the brush hog AND cut 1.35 acres. ON TOP OF IT, they added a whole bunch more work like debris removal, shrub trimming, vine removal, etc to EQUAL to my $400 bid!!!! I turned it down! Tired of this crap!! I completed a debris removal for $25/CYD to move 18 CYD into storage. After 30 days I was told to dispose of the personals in storage for a grand total of $50!!!! That's a total of $2.77 per CYD!!!!! I had to handle this stuff FOUR times. From property to storage, and from storage to disposal. PLUS an extra month storage for March because the month is not prorated by the storage company. I did charge $25/CYD for 18 CY, plus $107 for the additional month, plus $409 for a 20 yard dumpster for a total of $966. They balked at the price and said the work order is only for $50. Their rep argued with my for 30 minutes about the price. He came up with moving the debris onsite, like from exterior to garage, is $7.50 Their price. So I would make $60 and have $10 for disposal costs. WHAT??? I CAN'T EVEN BY A GARBAGE CAN AT MENARDS FOR $10!!!!!! Not to mention 18 CYD by their price of $7.50 is $135!!!!! Where does he come up with $60?????? Still arguing this one out, but I'm so tired of this crap!! I can go on and on and on here. Anyone else dealing with this crap????
Where you located ? I been with them a yr, for some reason my bids are going to someone else, while they keep sending me to someone else bids that i haveno clue what they bidded for. Plus out area work where im getting little out area fees.. Smh.

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The work you're receiving/compleleting... is it for HUD or FNMA?
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Everything that everyone is complaining about is the reasons we stopped. We have went back to doing work just for realtors, landlords and personal home owners at least they pay and understand the cost of work. I can not express enough that everyone would be better off just working for the banks and realtors and completely cut out asset companies. I also know that the one way to get your money is post the name of the bad company and the people on RIPOFF REPORT.COM So every time someone looks up that company or that person they will see that they like to rip people off.
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Everything that everyone is complaining about is the reasons we stopped. We have went back to doing work just for realtors, landlords and personal home owners at least they pay and understand the cost of work. I can not express enough that everyone would be better off just working for the banks and realtors and completely cut out asset companies. I also know that the one way to get your money is post the name of the bad company and the people on RIPOFF REPORT.COM So every time someone looks up that company or that person they will see that they like to rip people off.
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I have been working for them for a year. The prices and distances are crazy. They keep asking for grass cuts despite the snow and rain. Weather is no excuse for being late with a grass cut either I was told yesterday by processing. So if I think it going to be bad weather I decline. They been asking for grass cuts since JANUARY. Where do you live???
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Exclamation initial secure is a rip off company!!!!!!!!!!!

they outsource all office work to india.they want to get rich off of every order.they cut bids and cut payments.they were good for the first month we worked for them.then they cut prices,bids.they believe that 6x8 fence panels should be installed for $45 . i stood firm and eventually after 6 months i cut ties before they did any real damage to my company.Fred williams is a tHIEF .STAY AWAY FROM INITIAL SECURE AT ALL COSTS!!!!!.THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS WARNING.
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Ripped off yet AGAIN! WO stated to trim 21 LF of "branches" located at the " FRONT RIGHT CORNER" of the house. The only thing remotely close were shrubs. And trees were 40 feet or more away from the house. They sent a follow up order because I failed to trim the branches off a tree.....the pictures they sent me were from the LEFT REAR facing the street. The tree is about 20 feet AWAY from the house! Definately NOT the "FRONT RIGHT CORNER " OF the house! Closed the order as work fulfilled. But who knows if I'll get paid for it! More B.S.
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