Originally Posted by cpropertysolutions
In my 16 years I have tried twice. I made it only 2 months the 1st time and I would say some of that was my fault. The 2nd time I had 10 years of experience and tried very hard to look past their demands and ignorance and I lasted 2.5 months. You will never profit from working for them, that I will guarantee. Ran and run far away. I have no idea how they have and contractors left.
I had to reply because you just told my story. I applied when I was desperate in 2010 after my partner in P&P screwed me and I had to bankrupt our LLC. I got on with them doing stuff on the rehab side. It had a fancy name but I can't remember. Basically no trip fees, bid to totally rehab a property using their "National Price List"...yeah...Like I said, I was desperate. I did 71 bids over the course of a year and got 18 approvals back for $36k GROSS. Been so long ago I can't exactly recall the life changing profits this netted me. Anyone with even a little experience knows the time involved in bidding 70 rehabs. I should have pocketed double or triple what I GROSSED. Oddly enough, never got shorted payment for any of these, but I quit as I grew my preservation business. More money in the small P&P orders vs. rehabs.
Fast forward to 2016 - I get called from a recruiter looking for preservation help. I had a good client base and subs that could handle more volume, so I figured, what the heck, I'll try them again. Got an order that day for bids. Completed no problem. Little later I get "another contractor's bid approval" for a debris job. HUD regs less 20% (back then), 34 cyd. Knocked it out in a half day, property looked great. Later I get the "photos don't justify qty of debris" BS. Argue that, since we took out 2 6.5x16 trailers with 4' tall side walls piled high with straps over mattresses to hold everything down, and they cut me to 30. Keep in mind we had to measure the trailer, show it empty, 1/4 full, 1/2 full, etc. I said screw it. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I made money on the job and it was obviously my last order for them. Not a week later I get a no charge for a bag of trash in the driveway, lol. There was no bag of trash, easily provable with photos, but guess what, they didn't accept it. I told them "politely" to go stick something somewhere. Month or so later, get my check, $75 backcharge for 1 cyd debris plus a "rush reassign fee" of $25...Now keep in mind they only pay me (and the other guys) $40/cyd...Makes me irritated just typing this reply and that I let it all slide back then. In my defense, we were rolling in work back then, something like $500k give or take for the year.
I know all this info is out there, but why not add one more chapter to the Safeguard horror stories. I would live in my truck under a bridge before I would work for them again, and that's being gentle since this is a public forum. Please do your research people and don't get screwed. At this point, no one will feel sorry for you.