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We have not done HPIRs and other HUD work in the past. I'm sure it's something we could do, but providing pricing on something we haven't done before is difficult. I am aware of the issues of backfeeding, and that's not something we'd do. What is a fair price and/or estimate of time an HPIR takes? I am sure the $115 being offered is too low, but not sure what is appropriate. It notes that the HPIR inspection/minor securing needs done, but the other potential costly item is the safety hazards.
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My best advice is to look over the HPIR. I think they are like 4 pages long if memory serves. Take the time to examine your own home and complete the form as if you had to do it on your home. Now look at the time involved, the labor required (either your own or your crews) and come up with a number. Than add on a PITA factor as well as an "Oh Chit, I forgot to include that" factor and go from there.

I'm curious who this is for. If you don't mind sharing, PM me the company name.

IMHO, anything less than $200 is too low, especially factoring in liability.



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HPIR inspections used to pay in the $125-$135 range, but they seemed to have been dropping in price. Lots of upfront liability regarding roofs, mold, mechanicals, etc. Usually wasn't a lot of debris, but quite of bit of time spent capping lines, outlet covers, handrails, and documentation.
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HPIR inspections used to pay in the $125-$135 range, but they seemed to have been dropping in price. Lots of upfront liability regarding roofs, mold, mechanicals, etc. Usually wasn't a lot of debris, but quite of bit of time spent capping lines, outlet covers, handrails, and documentation.
I am unsure how it would be profitable at $125-$135 with the safety hazards though. Assuming <30 min drive time, is 3 per day feasible?
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I knew people doing $7 inspections that jumped all over them. We used to do them for a few nationals. They certainly are not 45 minute jobs. Yes, you can knock out three per day; you can cap some lines and outlets, doing a porch rail or two and walk away with $200. But you had better be on with your bids, your diagnosis, your documentation and your photos. The forms are like filling out tax addendums.I'd much rather make the same money to rekey a couple houses.
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I knew people doing $7 inspections that jumped all over them. We used to do them for a few nationals. They certainly are not 45 minute jobs. Yes, you can knock out three per day; you can cap some lines and outlets, doing a porch rail or two and walk away with $200. But you had better be on with your bids, your diagnosis, your documentation and your photos. The forms are like filling out tax addendums.I'd much rather make the same money to rekey a couple houses.
Yeah I think we may pass. The way this is written, I don't believe you can charge extra to cap/handrail/etc? If you could charge extra for these items, it may make a little more sense. I think though they are trying to say this is included in HPIR price?
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To cover all of those safety hazards and make a profit you are either going to have to have a fully stocked work truck or operate very close to a HD or Lowes.

In rural areas you are easily driving an hour one way to buy supplies.

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Last time I checked handrails from the nationals paid around $10 per linear ft...before discount. Caps and cover plates...ah, not so much.
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Let me guess you are doing work for Sentinal Field Services and good luck they might be the worst Ive ever seen.
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I believe the last pricing memo regarding handrails we got was from Safeguard, with a few other companies following right behind at the same rates. Sentinal wasn't one of them.
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