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Ok I know we have discussed this many times but the stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
Can someone tell me ( I know about the bleach and Kilz) but please explain how a contractor can give a bid to bleach clean and kilz mold on a ceiling from a roof leak.
Can they explain how this will help when, what about the studs behind the drywall. If the ceiling leaked, doesn't it just make sense that the area above will be affected.
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can you just tell them that bleach doesn't kill mold and killz doesn't do anything at all put just paint over it
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If it's from a roof leak the affected area's need removed. Only treatment would be for the sheathing and studs. drywall insulation would need to be removed. If mold is visible on interior ceiling imagine how bad it is on the other side. I bet they want it bid at less then $3.00 per sq ft too.
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Ok I know we have discussed this many times but the stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
Can someone tell me ( I know about the bleach and Kilz) but please explain how a contractor can give a bid to bleach clean and kilz mold on a ceiling from a roof leak.
Can they explain how this will help when, what about the studs behind the drywall. If the ceiling leaked, doesn't it just make sense that the area above will be affected.
If the ceiling leaked, doesn't it just make sense that the area above will be affected ?????
It makes too much sence but the banks and servicers don't care because when it is not fixed right it wont be their neck in the noose !! But the whole discoloration ... mold or whatever you want to call it arena is changing with the disclosure that the realtors have to sign soooooooo if you send them an E mail with the fact that there is a mold issue at the property and it is not disclosed and it sells and comes back perhaps on you and you have the Email to show it was reported but not disclosed ..... !!


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you should check with your local regs to see if you can even call it mold.. sometimes for legal reasons you just being a contractor and not being certified in mold remediation means you cant even use that word in your paper work legally
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For all the book learning and certifications Agency's and Cert Companies profess ... The practical solution is to stop what is causing mold, discoloration...what ever the word of the month is.

Once the source has been stopped, you isolate the area of issue and then pending on the price a client wants to pay... you go after the mold be complete removal or chemical treatment. Finally you make the area non-conducive for it to grow by advising the client that it is their responsibilty to maintain the area to inhibit re-occurence.

The reality of it is that those with the green believe "kilz and bleach" do the trick. If that's what they want to pay for then give it to'em. If they want "certified" you give them a price for "certified" cleaning. The ong an short of it is that it's all in the numbers...ya want a Yugo or ya want a Cadillac .
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The reality of it is that those with the green believe "kilz and bleach" do the trick. If that's what they want to pay for then give it to'em. If they want "certified" you give them a price for "certified" cleaning. The ong an short of it is that it's all in the numbers...ya want a Yugo or ya want a Cadillac .
Sorry, but I'm not buying "if that's what they want give it to them." I'm a state licensed contractor and I do primanily exterior renovation. The two things major "I want items are"

1. "I'm paying you to do the work and I don't want to pay extra to follow lead safe RRP rules"

2. "I want my roof done cheap. I know there are two layers but can you just install a 3rd one over the top to save money"

So your logic is I should violate laws & building codes exposing myself and business to the liabilty that comes with it, just because that's what they want to pay?

For me, its not about a Yugo or a Cadillac. It's about doing the right thing. Do I land every job? No. Do I want the jobs that aren't done correctly? No. The Craigslist handymen can have them. No offense to any CL handymen here.



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you should check with your local regs to see if you can even call it mold.. sometimes for legal reasons you just being a contractor and not being certified in mold remediation means you cant even use that word in your paper work legally
Anyone can "legally" call it mold...the powers to be just don't want you to because it triggers a bunch of hazmat issues and disclosure issues that will effect the sale of the home....If mold call it ,old and write it up properly so you doan't get youself in a jam...
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The reality of it is that those with the green believe "kilz and bleach" do the trick. If that's what they want to pay for then give it to'em.
When it comes to mold remediation, what the client wants doesn't always matter. Plenty have thought they made quick and easy money on bleach and kilz only to get pulled back into the fray by their short hairs when the property fails an air test.Could be weeks, could be months, could be years.
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Stupid is as Stupid does

How about Purchasing a Dehumidifier and being told to plug it into the wall socket , Take a Picture and we'll pay you.
Well how about the electric is shut off
just plug it in and you'll get paid
OK whatever
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