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Is the contractor obligated to perform a bid job that the price was automaticaly generated by a uploader formate then comes back substantally less than the original bid? The original price generated was fine with me and if it wasn't there is little you can do about it anyway....This National is telling me I have to complete work that comes back with any price they choose. I'm just about done with them, even though their money has been good for the most part.
This job is only a $500.00 job that I could do for cost. OK,
Just a day ago they did it on a job we bid that had 2500 tires and 1500 gals of oil in 55 gal drums. We put that part of the bid into "hazards" and bid accordingly, approx. $14,000.00. The job comes back approved for the original quanity of cubes exterior and interior only the price is cut in half and no mention of the "hazards" or the hazard bid. Upon talking with the reginal coordinator I'm told that the hazard bid was only a "eyeball estimate" and I would have to do the entire job for the approved amount... Well the cost of getting rid of the tires alone was more that their "approved" price for the three hundred cb's we bid.

My question. am I obligated to perform work that comes back less than what was bid?
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. . .My question. am I obligated to perform work that comes back less than what was bid?
According to memo #420 you are

Iíve already told you more than I know.
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whos eyeball estimate ? theres or your ? ,,, obviously yours,, tell them call up and get a drone plane to fly over to count tires, till then the bid stands

i dont care if they use an estimator or not as the estimator has settable parameters ie they can plug in any price they want

let say the local supply house gets a bundle of shingles on your truck for 40 bux you think good price lets mark that up by 30 percent ( handling ) 52 bux okay double that for install 104 bux okay we are at 312 a square ( no tar paper or nails added yet )

now they get this back and say garylaps is doing laps in a beer bottle trying to figure out how hes gonna buy that new boat

they get out there sunday circulars and price compare well they can get shingles for 25 bux closeout at the dollar general doesnt matter if there purple ,,your at the supply house every day any way why should they pay for handling and they already figure you should have nails and some tar paper so it should come out to 75 bux a square they dont allow for cutting around vents hip and valley cuts ridge capping and or waste but cuz they like you it becomes a 100 bux a square

NO DEAL

if it was a private contract and you were doing it and you bid a grand , the homeowner comes back and says no get your A#$ up there for 500 , get it done and if i dont like it over the next year or five im taking the money back youd more than likely beat him to death with a hammer

so why would you adjust for the bank ??

you were asked to put in a BID ,subcontractors and contractors BID work , we carry the liability of the work performed and its performance into the future

Employees Get there collective [email protected]@es up on that roof and get paid on friday


so are you a Contractor ? or are you an Employee ??
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A bid is your proice to do the job. NO you are not obligated to do the job. HOLD FAST and see what happens. The hacks who cut the bids have to learn to dispose of the debris and hazards costs and if they want people as have been told that load the debris and go to a college parking lot do doughnuts while the debris falls out then leave thats what they are going to get with cut rate bids.
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If you didn't bid the price then it isn't your bid.
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If you didn't bid the price then it isn't your bid.
What he said.
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well if you do get the job I'll come by and get the oil for free . I know a bunch of people that use oil burners and would be very thankfull for some heat that they are having trouble affording.
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The altered/adjusted bid notices started coming in around 2006/07. The first few times we ignored it, then got a gutful and fired off letters to the companies. We simply told them if they have no legal authority to change a single thing to our letterhead estimates and if they did, they would be committing fraud. We had several call backs and emails stating (a lie) that they didn't touch them, it was "the client".
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That's what we are being told "it's the client" If that is the case then the "client" can do it themselvs.
Fortunately in this case the tires, oil and 300 cubes were on a different property that was also abandon (my cooridnator didn't believe me) These two properties are side by side and USED to be one. Anyway we have learned a valiable lesson on the cheap on that one it would have cost me about $10,000.
Now we are fighting the original $750.00 job (we'll get $562.5) on principles. That job will sit on our open order board till it's resolved or I'm fired. I hope they drop off the work they send me for a bad scorecard and I can at least get the $$$ they owe me. This industry is NOT a contractor relationship it's an employee relationship.
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