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Who are the faceless HUD "Cutters"

Got chopped by HUD again... When I asked my client how I can get in touch with them to request a valid reason for the cut..I was informed I wasn't "allowed" to talk to the people who just too food from my table.
To that end I gotta say... if they work for the guv'ment... its Public info...
I may be incorrect on that as they are faceless and I don't know if they're a private contrcator for HUD whacking bids with Mashall Swift Cost estimator or what.

All I know the phrase "HUD has reduced your bid" any of ya'll get that song an dance?
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Got chopped by HUD again... When I asked my client how I can get in touch with them to request a valid reason for the cut..I was informed I wasn't "allowed" to talk to the people who just too food from my table.
To that end I gotta say... if they work for the guv'ment... its Public info...
I may be incorrect on that as they are faceless and I don't know if they're a private contrcator for HUD whacking bids with Mashall Swift Cost estimator or what.

All I know the phrase "HUD has reduced your bid" any of ya'll get that song an dance?

Been getting from 5 Brothers and NFR for awhile! I think it`s BS, but do not see how to get around it!
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Been getting from 5 Brothers and NFR for awhile! I think it`s BS, but do not see how to get around it!
That is pure BS. HUD doesn't cut bids they either accept them or decline them. If you can get proof the "client" is HUD, you got them by the short and curlies.....



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Been getting from 5 Brothers and NFR for awhile! I think it`s BS, but do not see how to get around it!
I think Matt out in Montana... has some knowledge on this... he previously mentioned something about HUD's Office of the Inspector General...
What I need to be made clear to me is .. is it legal to alter a bid. I spoke at length with Joe B... and he seemed pretty sincere that they're hands are tied...
They make more $$$ if we invoice more... but I wouldn't know if they're burning the candle at both ends... Like I say faceless Hud Cutters... sitting at terminals whacking up bids across the board...
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That is pure BS. HUD doesn't cut bids they either accept them or decline them. If you can get proof the "client" is HUD, you got them by the short and curlies.....
Paper work says FHA....
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Got chopped by HUD again... When I asked my client how I can get in touch with them to request a valid reason for the cut..I was informed I wasn't "allowed" to talk to the people who just too food from my table.
To that end I gotta say... if they work for the guv'ment... its Public info...
I may be incorrect on that as they are faceless and I don't know if they're a private contrcator for HUD whacking bids with Mashall Swift Cost estimator or what.

All I know the phrase "HUD has reduced your bid" any of ya'll get that song an dance?
BS, HUD doesn't reduce bids they either accept them or decline them. If the work order states it, you can report them.

By the way, to my knowledge, HUD rates are still the same per ML 2010-18. Anyone mowing already is supposed to be following last years rates. The new grass rates will come out on or before March 31, 2013 for this upcoming season.

Also, I was told HUD dropped Marshall and Swift and is now with Blue Book using Repairbase.



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Paper work says FHA....
I'm not sure about FHA, FNMA, Freddie or VA. I just know know HUD doesn't cut bids.

I'm a conspiracy theorist type person. I firmly believe that the National crooks mark up our bids when they know they can get more. When the can't, they turn in the bids as is, and then when it gets approved, they tell us on the WO that "the client reduced the amount". Why is it such a secret? If the work off a 20-25% discount, just show us the numbers and remove the doubt.......



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I have called their bluff before. HUD does not cut bids. Your bid cannot be altered by anyone without your permission. Cut your plumber's bid to install your new toilet and see what he does. HUD is not Walmart; they do not need your bid to be xxx, they only go by best and lowest. While the government may be many things, they do not tell you what your debris or mold bid may be and that you must do it for that price.
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Call the Regional HUD office and file a complaint. It falls on deaf ears but perhaps if enough did this perhaps it would put the Service Co on notice...
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Hey Paul Williams of Foreclosurepedia has filed a criminal complaint about this...and they are using Istar to record and make lists of this activity so they can show the courts "pattern"...you should send him an email and he can get you the information you need....

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