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Bid to Visqueen or Poly Cover Pool

The reason I ask if this isn't just another board up is because the last two properties I went to had no boarding and just a thick canvas type type bolted into the cement. Additionally when I got in with these guys
one of their questions was what is the "new" way to secure pools, meaning the old board up way isn't the right way?

Pool (Cover Pool to Specs)
• Befores of pool and all equipment.
• Chemicals being added (if applicable).
• Water level at 4 feet.
• After of pool covered to FAS specs.
• Gate secured with padlock and zip tie.
• Photo showing a worker supported by the frame standing over the middle of the pool.

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They just want it boarded. Disregard.

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"Photo showing a worker supported by the frame standing over the middle of the pool."
Sounds like a wood frame to me. The plastic safety covers you're talking about are at MFS Supply ... it's what Safeguard requires now but I'm not sure about any other companies that may use them. It's kind of a paint to order them, and you need to have the right size or it won't fit, need enough clearance around the pool blah blah

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"Photo showing a worker supported by the frame standing over the middle of the pool."
Sounds like a wood frame to me. The plastic safety covers you're talking about are at MFS Supply ... it's what Safeguard requires now but I'm not sure about any other companies that may use them. It's kind of a paint to order them, and you need to have the right size or it won't fit, need enough clearance around the pool blah blah

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http://www.mfssupply.com/Pool-Covers...&category=5658
Yep, that is exactly what I have been seeing. The one property has only been maintained by FAS so I am assuming it depends on who FAS is working for on that w/o whether or not they board or use that.

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The reason I ask if this isn't just another board up is because the last two properties I went to had no boarding and just a thick canvas type type bolted into the cement. Additionally when I got in with these guys
one of their questions was what is the "new" way to secure pools, meaning the old board up way isn't the right way?

Pool (Cover Pool to Specs)
Befores of pool and all equipment.
Chemicals being added (if applicable).
Water level at 4 feet.
After of pool covered to FAS specs.
Gate secured with padlock and zip tie.
Photo showing a worker supported by the frame standing over the middle of the pool.
The covers that your are talking about are called pool safety covers. They are not done by a property preservation crew. One of the home owners had them done. Google "pool safety cover".
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I have installed several pool safety covers. The add value to the house because there reusable when the house is sold unlike wood boarding. They usually cost way less to buy and to install the wood also. Myself and one other guy can usually install one in about 2 hours depending on the type of concrete used for the pool deck.

I installed one that had pebbles in the concrete and it slap wore out every drill bit I had. I finally used a smaller pilot hole and stepped up the bit to the required size.

Imho when installed correctly with the proper tension they are safer then boarding. How many times have you went to a property and saw that the boards are in the pool or the vizqueen is torched by the sun?

I usually charge $425 to cover a pool with the safety cover and the company I work for buys the covers. That is for a standard size pool, and odd shape pools or bigger like a 20 x 40 and the prices go up.


The covers are about $400-$600 depending on shape and size so you can see that sometimes it is still cheaper then boarding. I will not board a pool for less the $3.25 a sqft and that is still low but I can usually board a pool with one other guy in about 4 hours start to finish and that nailing every nail. Less time if using nail guns.
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I have installed several pool safety covers. The add value to the house because there reusable when the house is sold unlike wood boarding. They usually cost way less to buy and to install the wood also. Myself and one other guy can usually install one in about 2 hours depending on the type of concrete used for the pool deck.

I installed one that had pebbles in the concrete and it slap wore out every drill bit I had. I finally used a smaller pilot hole and stepped up the bit to the required size.

Imho when installed correctly with the proper tension they are safer then boarding. How many times have you went to a property and saw that the boards are in the pool or the vizqueen is torched by the sun?

I usually charge $425 to cover a pool with the safety cover and the company I work for buys the covers. That is for a standard size pool, and odd shape pools or bigger like a 20 x 40 and the prices go up.


The covers are about $400-$600 depending on shape and size so you can see that sometimes it is still cheaper then boarding. I will not board a pool for less the $3.25 a sqft and that is still low but I can usually board a pool with one other guy in about 4 hours start to finish and that nailing every nail. Less time if using nail guns.
You're doing the safety covers on banked owned pools? Never seen them done on bank owned stuff around here.
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You're doing the safety covers on banked owned pools? Never seen them done on bank owned stuff around here.
Yes

Like I said its actually better in the long run to push these covers. They add resale value and are safer. I bid for them on every pool and usually try to push them because of that. I don't like being held liable for the wood boarded pools because there is no "manufactures" way of doing it only HUD.

If it ever came to court for some reason I can say that I installed the cover to the manufactures specs. You cant do that with the wood, I have not seen one pool boarded with pressure treated wood and if that house sits there for years it will fall apart. Im sure we have all been to them where the vizqueen is in the pool the metal is rusted and the wood has caved in. Wait to little Johnny gets hurt at one of these pools that are boarded.
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yeah, they are definitely being used by preservation crews as this is what Safeguard requires now. Has been for a few years although your installation fee is much lower and you buy the cover yourself.
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Those safety covers are a lot better than the way they've been boarding them around here. I've noticed on my grass cuts that a lot of the pools that have been boarded up several years ago the boards are starting to rot and collapse into the pool. I've also noticed a lot of pools that aren't boarded at all.
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