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New Safegurd Tarp Memo

Just read the new Safeguard Bidding Memo for Roof Tarping .
Seems they have set the price with limitations .
If Bidding is still an offer to perform a service for a specific price set out in the Bid . Then they need to Change the word Bid to the new Safeguard definition of a bid
Some thing like .Standard Safeguard forced Pricing that we will only pay you if the client is satisfied
NOT a BID
Do they not realize that we are Independent contractors and that we offer a price for acceptance . Not have to get the crumbs after they take their discount
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Just read the new Safeguard Bidding Memo for Roof Tarping .
Seems they have set the price with limitations .
If Bidding is still an offer to perform a service for a specific price set out in the Bid . Then they need to Change the word Bid to the new Safeguard definition of a bid
Some thing like .Standard Safeguard forced Pricing that we will only pay you if the client is satisfied
NOT a BID
Do they not realize that we are Independent contractors and that we offer a price for acceptance . Not have to get the crumbs after they take their discount

Have beenn going around and around with 5 brother on a pool cover bid! they adjusted it down to were bid will only cover cost of material after there discount!was asked to breakdown my bid, so did showing them this!I miss the old days when if they didn`t like your bid they would get another bid! 5 Brothers have started setting prices too! when are they going to start offering benifits as they are treating us like employees and not contractors!
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Your bid breakdown is your business and no one elses. They have no more right to dictate your profit margins that you do to them. We have explained, in writing, to five brothers in the past, that they are not allowed to alter our bids in any way. Just an fyi, usually when they cut your numbers down, you are the only contractor bidding.
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Just read the new Safeguard Bidding Memo for Roof Tarping .
Seems they have set the price with limitations .
Havent seen the new numbers yet. Do you have specifics?
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Stick to your numbers and stick to telling them that as an independent contractor you are allowed to bid what ever you want with what ever bid restrictions in place.
And they have the right to reject the bid from you and obtain one from some one else.

What they do not have the right to do is set the price, alter your bid or make demands as to what your bid can and cannot say.


When I was with them they would tell me stuff like I could not make any stipulations at all.
No amount down on a large job, no bid valid dates, no nothing.
All they would allow is X dollars to complete X work. When I reminded them that I was an INDEPENDENT contractor they seemed to get very unhappy with me.

It wasn't long after I was dropped for not following orders.

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Amateurs are people that can't do their job even when they do feel like it.
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We haven't seen a roof tarping pricing memo. The guidance to use brown tarps is the only memo we have received. What memo is it?

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We haven't seen a roof tarping pricing memo. The guidance to use brown tarps is the only memo we have received. What memo is it?

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Never received an email on it. Just have to log in to vendor Web and look at the new memos section
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Here is a portion of the memo that I found...

"If the M&M contractor can justify that a delay in completing work necessary to prevent further damages was due to a inaccurate or excessive bid, they may be able to hold our client responsible for any damage that occurred. If this occurs the client will hold Safeguard and its contractor responsible for the cost to fix the damage. Losses of this kind should not occur and can be avoided if we assure that we submit reasonable and appropriate bids.
Over the past several months we been monitoring bids to tarp roofs. What we found indicates that there is no consistency in how roof-tarping is bid. Bids for the same work on the same property have varied by hundreds to thousands of dollars. In almost every case where such discrepancies were found, the conflicting bids resulted in significant delays in bid approval, and in some cases resulted in additional damage that had to be repaired at no charge.
To prevent losses of this kind from occurring in the future, we have developed a chart that shows the maximum bid that will be allowed .
The figures on the chart are based on a poll we conducted, asking a number of contractors across the country to give actual costs to tarp roofs. The pricing is based on a typical composition or asphalt shingle roof with a 4/12 pitch or less. Consideration was given to one-, two-, and three-story buildings and the size of the area to be tarped. We also incorporated the average cost of a bundle of furring strips, tarps of various sizes, and labor. The cost allowables set forth on this chart are reasonable and do take into consideration our contractors' profit and overhead."


Basically, jack them around and they will adjust your bid. Take too long to resubmit and you will be held responsible for damages and repairs. They also did you the favor or marking up your materials for you.

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I would say this is a Vendor Web Glitch showing that Memo. Look at the date and the memo number they are both very old.
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Your right. Memo 1098.
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