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Using bleach and painting over mold......

Does not get rid of the harmful mold, it just hides it. If you are a maintenance vendor and follow these dumb nationals protocols, I hope you have good insurance.

When the new homeowners start getting sick and start finding that hidden mold, who's going to get in trouble?

I have one word for my fellow contractors, RUN!

If you see mold, bid to totally remove. Do not bid to bleach and paint. That's some serious negligence. If they don't approve the bid, don't continue to do it. Not worth the anxiety.
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Most guys don't believe u and the ones that know better cant stop the ones that don't.. It's a mess and someday when someone's kid gets sick or a major lawsuit happens it'll be blown out of the water
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And then covering it up with tile....

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We never cleanup mold.That is a no no. If you are not licensed to do mold remediation stay away from it. The ramifications can be very costly.Both in dollars and legal action.You as a contractor need to make your first responsibility to your self and you company.
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did a w/o about a month ago basement flooded first time at property mold in basement starting upstairs I bid to remove the mold from al walls affected and the drop ceiling tile gave good measurments to each room and dollar amount got w/o back bank wanted me to treat and kiltzed knowing this would not cure the problem I expressed to my field advicer (what a joke) he said to go and do the work the bank just wanted to see an effort so did and after bleaching walls and painting them there was hardly any drywall left as soon as the roller touched the walls the drywall fell apart. I am by no means a expert just flunkie but common sense should tell you any big job that has lotsof mold that a regular contractor shouldn't touch I made good money doing it but it will be my last my lungs mean to much to me the risk not worth it reassign
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did a w/o about a month ago basement flooded first time at property mold in basement starting upstairs I bid to remove the mold from al walls affected and the drop ceiling tile gave good measurments to each room and dollar amount got w/o back bank wanted me to treat and kiltzed knowing this would not cure the problem I expressed to my field advicer (what a joke) he said to go and do the work the bank just wanted to see an effort so did and after bleaching walls and painting them there was hardly any drywall left as soon as the roller touched the walls the drywall fell apart. I am by no means a expert just flunkie but common sense should tell you any big job that has lotsof mold that a regular contractor shouldn't touch I made good money doing it but it will be my last my lungs mean to much to me the risk not worth it reassign

I think i would have told him to have a nice day. And then sent him some info from the EPA
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did a w/o about a month ago basement flooded first time at property mold in basement starting upstairs I bid to remove the mold from al walls affected and the drop ceiling tile gave good measurments to each room and dollar amount got w/o back bank wanted me to treat and kiltzed knowing this would not cure the problem I expressed to my field advicer (what a joke) he said to go and do the work the bank just wanted to see an effort so did and after bleaching walls and painting them there was hardly any drywall left as soon as the roller touched the walls the drywall fell apart. I am by no means a expert just flunkie but common sense should tell you any big job that has lotsof mold that a regular contractor shouldn't touch I made good money doing it but it will be my last my lungs mean to much to me the risk not worth it reassign
Not trying to be a dick...not something you want to place in a public forum....
Our company has ALWAYS refuced to perform the bleach and kilz crap....if we see mold we report MOLD not discoloration..period...

Here is what will happen...
#1 You're not licensed in mold remediation therefore you are not qualified to IDENTIFY mold...
#2 You are not insured to perform the service being reported as mold/discoloration remediation.
#3 Doesn't matter if you do not know and understand the law you put an X o a contract you are smart enough to read and the court will not accept I was doing what I was told.
#4 There is something in the legal world called "personal Capacity" you're about to find out just how that works in a lawsuit.....

People you have to start telling these companies no...period...

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you are absolutely right everyone needs to say no these companies make you think that u need them to survive we need to remember that these are our own business not theres and they need us worst than we need them. You can only chase a dollar for so long and once they con you in they think they got you gotta stick up for yourself and if they take work away then so be it
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Hi argue everyweek about this. We are certified to remove mold and tell them on all work orders that we will not bleach clean and paint over mold on drywall, just to much liability.
I love when I get well our company just wants it done that way. My standard reply is always ok have somebody do it.
Not to long ago I went round and round that there was a job where I wouldn't do the bleach and said find another contractor. Guess what, I went to the property for something else and sure enough, they bleach cleaned it and painted it. Good luck in court on that one.
Sorry but I have worked too hard to build my company just to do a crap job because that is what your client wants.
The best was there was one company that said to us, well if you will not do it their way then we will find somebody who will. Good go ahead and have a nice life.
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My take:
Think of it as if YOU and YOUR family are moving into that home. Would you allow your wife or kids live in that house knowing what lies beneath/behind those walls? HELL NO you wouldn't. I don't give a rats ass how much $$$ a company is willing to pay to bleach/kilz...simply put the only ethical and responsible thing to do is to to do it RIGHT.

So you clowns (and yes I mean exactly that...I could be harsher) that are doing this, SHAME ON YOU.
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