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Looking for Experienced Michigan Contractors

Hi, Iím looking for some experienced contractor for the state of Michigan..My company received a state wide contract and we need some experienced Michigan contractors......If you are interested please email me the counties you cover also your experience to [email protected]



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Hi, Iím looking for some experienced contractor for the state of Michigan..My company received a state wide contract and we need some experienced Michigan contractors......If you are interested please email me the counties you cover also your experience to [email protected]



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Do you have a pay scale?
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Do you have a pay scale?
They will probably make you sign a NA first
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They will probably make you sign a NA first

Yeah,that would be my guess to.


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Hi, Iím looking for some experienced contractor for the state of Michigan..My company received a state wide contract and we need some experienced Michigan contractors......If you are interested please email me the counties you cover also your experience to [email protected]



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Are you the Elite Clean Up LLC in farmington or Southfield???
Either way you should at least tell everyone a little about yourself and where the work is coming from...if you're a legit company with contracts or are you in reality looking for "employees" instead of IC's???????

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I would love to post all the information you guys are asking for...But there are so many angry contractors on here (Forum), all they would do is bash the preservation company i work for,no matter which company it is...Also there is no reason for everyone for everyone to see my pricing, if they are not interested or do not live in the area that I am looking. Not saying this is not a helpful forum for preservation contractors but since I have joined I also see a lot of negativity for every preservation companyÖ.My company have worked for them all from Safe Guard to Cyprexx etc etc and not all of them are bad people IMJSÖ..
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Hoss, of course we are angry you would be to. The ineptness of the desk jockeys at these national companies is enough to make the Pope angry. This was at one time a very profitable business to be in but today its a mess. If you are coming on here to recruit expect to have questions asked of you expect to be lambasted. (especially if you are throwing $15-$25 lawn cuts at us). The waters are so muddied by regionals landing contracts and wanting those of us who are professional to even consider some of their pricing is ludicrous at best. Why in the name of God should we consider working for these prices. We don't drive around in smart cars we have Vans 1/2, 3/4, and 1 ton pickups with trailers loaded with equipment (professional grade I might add) we are not the neighborhood kid taking his dads 22 inch push mower with a 1 gallon can of gas and looking for work. We have overhead, taxes, insurances, office expenses, wages, tens of thousands of dollars invested in this. I'm sure you do to but the business is getting dirty and cheap just don't be a part of the mud sliding into the river. Post your price for a 15k lawn cut if its 35 or above you might be received well as long as you don't require 45 freaking pictures!!
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I would love to post all the information you guys are asking for...But there are so many angry contractors on here (Forum), all they would do is bash the preservation company i work for,no matter which company it is...Also there is no reason for everyone for everyone to see my pricing. Ö..
And you care if people bash your client why?
And your hesitant to disclose your pricing why?
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Let me tell you why you get negative feedback from this type of inquiry. Let's call this little nugget of advice "Confessions of a Former Regional"

I will preface this by stating that we once ran 3 states, along with the Southwest corner of Ohio and Savannah area in GA for multiple nationals. We had an office full of "Vendor Managers" (I use the term loosely) and a network of over 51 regular subcontractors and a revolving door of contractors coming and going. Some were to good for this business and what we could afford to pay and others were not qualified to glue Popsicle sticks together down at the retirement home with aunt Gertrude.

The current business model in this industry is the core of the problem. The prices being paid by the banks and by HUD, FANNIE MAE, FREDDIE MAC, VA, FHA, etc. are usually reasonable. Then the national covers the states with REGIONALS who hire contractors that in many times sub contract the work to some poor schmuck in a beat up 89 S-10 that barely has gas money to haul his 1989 Briggs&Stratton 3.5hp pusher to the properties for his $15.00 grass cut. You can't hate on this guy after all he was sucked in with the promise of high volume easy peasy grass cuts, and work orders. All you have to do is take a few photo's this business is simple a monkey could do it. The profit margins are slim but....This is my favorite line!!! "you make it up in VOLUME!!!!

Why do you want an entire state if you do not currently have the manpower to manage it? The simple answer is to make money of course. The fact is you will be lucky to make much if any money. The bigger regionals are crumbling like the termite infested houses they service. As a matter of fact one such regional was covering Michigan...Could be a coincidence or not either way???? The many problems a regional faces are chargebacks, late orders, cut bids, having to buy materials and pay guys ahead because they have no cashflow to manage jobs. Then you wait and wait and wait to get paid only to learn you have had your payout cut because the pics didn't justify debris totals, or my favorite "compressed Cubic Yards" and you have the guys that blatantly screw you. After all they have never met you so what if they place all the debris into the garage or attic and you get charged back?

There is only 1 reason a national needs a regional. Have you ever asked yourself this question? "Why doesn't the national divide the state into regions and hire the contractors themselves?" Accountability that is why. They want to be indemnified and held harmless should anything ever go wrong. Pull out your contract there is most likely 3 pages of verbage on this subject. They are willing to take a smaller profit in order to make you the guy getting his hands dirty. You get to be the guy that throws away the family photo album, or evicts grandma.

There is no reason contractors can't manage all of these properties directly for the banks. If we do need a national we certainly don't need a regional, or sub regional, there just isn't enough pie to slice that many times.

If companies would quit trying to run work through subs and stick to what they can do themselves the contractors in those states would be able to get a decent price for their services.
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Awesome post CL Hack you are dead on!!
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