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Help a brotha out......

I have the opportunity (it's my job if I want it) to do a rather large demo job. It's an ex medical clinic, built in 1955 and 4,800 square feet of finished space. The demo will be to bring the space back to an open shell for future tenant build outs.
I THINK (or pray), I have my bases covered on the number I am going to submit. But out of curiousity I'd love to hear how you all would bid this bad boy out...particularly those of you using Exactimate. I don't use any software per say, but on occasion will pull out the Estimate Master (I'm not fond of it at all).

Some details that weren't provided above:
Divided into 27 rooms
2 load bearing walls that run the span
17 sinks
6 toilet rooms
5 100amp service panels
Double ceiling: 1x1 acoustic with a 2x4 drop ceiling built below it

Bid will NOT include any remediation if needed (I suspect possibility of asbestos VCT tile). Getting it tested this week.

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go by dumpsters needed and man power figure 7 days to be comfortable with 7 guys per day plus 4-6 dumpsters
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This is what I would bid. I'll add the caveat that I've never done this exact kind of demo job before, and I may be a little high, or a little low, but, that's why you come to a forum like this right? I know there are plenty of professionals who will set me on the right track on this forum. Anyway, here it is:

$20 a man hour x 7 men x 84 hours = $11,760
8 dumpsters at 300 a piece = $2400
$20 to remove each fixture x 23 (6 toilets and 17 sinks) = $460
$5 to cap each fixture x 23 = $115

So I would bid $14,735.

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Is it plaster or drywall.

1955 would plaster so that's a lot more work. Also check and see if its got wire mesh in it or is plaster and lath.

If its plaster check it for lead and asbestos because in 1955 they used both

My software shows 15,435.78 for that job. That includes pulling all screws nails and dumpster.

If it plaster and lath the price is 19650
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Nice. Is that exactimate? If so...damn I am GOOD. I am dead nuts on in my numbers. I have some hidden add-ins as a CYA measure, but I came up with $19,600 as a bare bones number with no wiggle.
And yes, it is plaster w/wire mesh on exterior walls (drywall on interiors). Testing to follow later this week....on the owner. It it tests positive for asbestos "I'm Out". Simple as that.


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Is it plaster or drywall.

1955 would plaster so that's a lot more work. Also check and see if its got wire mesh in it or is plaster and lath.

If its plaster check it for lead and asbestos because in 1955 they used both

My software shows 15,435.78 for that job. That includes pulling all screws nails and dumpster.

If it plaster and lath the price is 19650
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Not bad, but I think you may be leaving $ on the table. I don't bill out any less than $35 per man hour, and $5 per cap is a steal! Don't forget to build in PPE equipment, oversight/management fee, bringing in potable water, generator costs, kybo fees.


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This is what I would bid. I'll add the caveat that I've never done this exact kind of demo job before, and I may be a little high, or a little low, but, that's why you come to a forum like this right? I know there are plenty of professionals who will set me on the right track on this forum. Anyway, here it is:

$20 a man hour x 7 men x 84 hours = $11,760
8 dumpsters at 300 a piece = $2400
$20 to remove each fixture x 23 (6 toilets and 17 sinks) = $460
$5 to cap each fixture x 23 = $115

So I would bid $14,735.

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Hey as I said, no software, and I didn't know it was plaster! I Appreciate you giving me some pointers. Right now we only demo outbuildings and small structures like chicken coops. I'd love to get into large demos like this one.

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Chicken coops....wouldn't a match be cheaper?

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Hey as I said, no software, and I didn't know it was plaster! I Appreciate you giving me some pointers. Right now we only demo outbuildings and small structures like chicken coops. I'd love to get into large demos like this one.

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Yea but I could say the same about 90% of the properties I service right now! And the last chicken coop we tore down was maybe 5x5, paid $450, and was torn apart and on a trailer in 10 minutes.
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