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So I've been reading a lot of negative comments about "cost calculators" here recently. Anybody have a link or able to post something here that isn't proprietary or get ya in trouble over? I haven't done PP in awhile, and I'm definitely NOT thinking of getting back into it, I'm just very curious how much services are paying vs. what I made a few years ago after being run through a "cost calculator". Honestly, it sounds like a scam to me to low ball everything that is ran through it. That, and I could use a good laugh.
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We had a gutter job over the winter. We originally bid it at like $250 and really were not making any money at that. They sent it back approved for $110 and said that is what their computer said the job was worth. My partner got pissed and sent them back an invoice for what the parts would cost $130, and they still stuck with $110
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We had a gutter job over the winter. We originally bid it at like $250 and really were not making any money at that. They sent it back approved for $110 and said that is what their computer said the job was worth. My partner got pissed and sent them back an invoice for what the parts would cost $130, and they still stuck with $110
I ran in to same thing with covering a pool (2`s and mesh,ect)! I bid $1200 they came back with $900 plus there discount! I said no thanks after paying everything including your discount I would be making $29! I asked them to resign as it was not my bid anymore! They did then three weeks later came back with my price approved! I guess they couldn`t find anyone else willing to work for nothing!
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I ran in to same thing with covering a pool (2`s and mesh,ect)! I bid $1200 they came back with $900 plus there discount! I said no thanks after paying everything including your discount I would be making $29! I asked them to resign as it was not my bid anymore! They did then three weeks later came back with my price approved! I guess they couldn`t find anyone else willing to work for nothing!
We tried to blow them off, but they just kept coming back over and over with the same bid. Finally after like the 4th time my partner just did it when he was in the area to get them to leave us alone.
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I did a trash out on a property which also had a pool. They said they needed a bid to cover the pool also because the original sub way underbid it and bailed. Since I borrowed my dads truck and my brother-in-law's trailer to trash out, I wasn't about to do the borrowing thing again so I declined the job. They kept pestering me, said they couldn't find anyone else to do it so I agreed to submit a bid. So I called a pool company who wanted to do a complete restoration since the pool was trashed, and they refused to "just cover it to HUD specs". Since the pro's said it was trashed and the liner was lifting, I submitted a bid to remove the pool. The bid was like $12K for an excavation co. to drain it, dig it up and dispose of it (I would've also netted like $2K off it, he he...) After we went rounds about that for awhile, I realized they wanted to JUST COVER THE POOL AND NOTHING MORE. So I called a GC to take a look and give me a price. I gave him all the specs from HUD as to how it needed to be done. So he takes time out of his day to drive to the property, get measurements, price materials etc etc.It takes the GC a few days to do all this and in the meantime the "order mill" (reg? nat? I donno... doesn't really matter) pesters me to no end calling, email, call some more to the point I told them "I declined this job from the get go and you pestered me until I accepted it. Now your pestering me endlessly, wasting my time, and you know I am waiting on a bid from a GC. GC operate in the real world, not in your fantasy land of things magically get done just because you dropped the ball or went with a low bid. Lack of planning on YOUR part does not constitute an emergency on MY part! When I hear from the GC with a bid you'll be the first to know!" Was I rude? Yes. Was I frank? Yes. Did it feel reeeeeeeeally good to put a harsh dose of reality on these ? Hell, yes! So the "supervisor" calls me back a few hours later to tell me the job was cancelled and stop all work immediately. Basically, I'm off the job. Hey, no sweat off my . I wasn't looking forward to calling the GC back to tell him "forget it, the job was cancelled" but I did, and I also offered up the companies phone number, just in case he was jacked he could call them himself and vent. But he was cool about it and said "these things happen" sorta attitude, because I told him exactly what was going on to begin with. And by the way, I haven't heard back from that order mill since then. Go figure...
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We had a gutter job over the winter. We originally bid it at like $250 and really were not making any money at that. They sent it back approved for $110 and said that is what their computer said the job was worth. My partner got pissed and sent them back an invoice for what the parts would cost $130, and they still stuck with $110
These ers don't value our time one iota. My favorite line is "We can't pay you that much, but can't you get it when you're in the area doing something else?" Hate is a strong word, but I really do hate these ers.
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These ers don't value our time one iota. My favorite line is "We can't pay you that much, but can't you get it when you're in the area doing something else?" Hate is a strong word, but I really do hate these ers.
I get this all the time on lawns out of area! they think they will only have to pay more for first property and then less for any other! Not happen!
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We tried to blow them off, but they just kept coming back over and over with the same bid. Finally after like the 4th time my partner just did it when he was in the area to get them to leave us alone.
You set a precedence by doing this and now they know all they have to do is bug you into submission...
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I'm getting the same run around. A little advise. Treat each out of town job stand on it's own. I will be as I've learned my lesson because I didn't disconnect the feed line on the pump I won't be paid.....UNLESS I drive 178 miles to do so. YES, I shut off the circuit at the panel, YES, I zip tied the valve shut, YES, I turned off the switch and taped off at the pump...
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I've been asked a couple times by members about this subject..."Cost calculators" If I may...what the sam dickens is a cost calculator????
Are you guys bidding...trying to come up with a guideline for fees???

The questions I've been asked it sounds like you're attempting to perform a B&E on a service but no one has responded to the messages I returned so I'm a little confused here....

What exactly are you guys calling a "Cost Calculator"???

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