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Close down and pretend to be sick for a day? That's what unions used to do? I believe you have the definition of employee and business owner mentalities confused. Pretending to be "sick" to close up shop like an EMPLOYEE union used to do is exactly an employee mentality.
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True...however, It was the only analogy I could come up with...

There is no confusion here...
We close Sundays and Holidays...If yo want me on those days there is a fee on top of everything...

I will have a more detailed article later today on everything...the conference should be posted later today...editing is going on right now as there were a couple glitches...

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True...however, It was the only analogy I could come up with...

There is no confusion here...
We close Sundays and Holidays...If yo want me on those days there is a fee on top of everything...

I will have a more detailed article later today on everything...the conference should be posted later today...editing is going on right now as there were a couple glitches...
If they give you a job due by Monday and you accept it how is it their fault you had to work Sunday or a Holiday? This is honestly a time management issue not a national issue. I agree that their expectations are unreal at times and I hate them as bad or worse than any one here does. I'm just not sure this is the real fight?
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If they give you a job due by Monday and you accept it how is it their fault you had to work Sunday or a Holiday? This is honestly a time management issue not a national issue. I agree that their expectations are unreal at times and I hate them as bad or worse than any one here does. I'm just not sure this is the real fight?
Apples and oranges....
The WO is due Monday...you work Sunday that is on you...
But for a WO...like I have had happen...come in at 945PM on a Friday night with a Sunday due date???? no...

You are correct in time management...
If you choose to be a 24/7/365 company for these people that is on you...
What I am saying everyone needs to pull their collective heads out of their asses and come together on one friggin issue and stand their ground to make a statement.....

Until that happens then we deal with the **** the is dolled out...well not our company as we do not allow this crap that everyone seems to roll over and lick their butts because they are afraid of not getting work...

Sorry but I also have a small custom glass a wood operation...you call me on Sunday for a Board Up you pay...that is my time...and the PPI people need to have their time...

Besides this is a suggestion that is going right over the employees of the industry heads....
If you are a business set hours with a day that you are closed for NORMAL day to day operations and stick to the schedule....

I will say this again...the day that there is someone to answer the phones on Sundays and Holidays and not some recording thanking me for calling the hotline and to please wait up to an hour for a call back that never comes...that will be the day I re-think this issue until then those giving up those days are just plain stupid and they are chasing pennies on the dollars they are spending...
Our company has business hours...we have a schedule and we keep it...We are also closed on Sundays and Holidays and our employees can have their religious events off...unpaid...but we do acknowledge this...

In all the consultations I have done for the past three months...not one person said they had business hours or were closed any day of the week....
Again people need to understand the concept of a Business License and the insurance they have to buy....and act like a business person and not an empractor.....

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Let me also add this....the "clients" they do not ask that anyone work on Weekends or Holidays...that is something that the NAMC and ROm have come up with to "provide" a better product...this was something that you were left out of the negotiations on when they acquired the contract and now you are being expected to help the company providing the WO honor their contractual and financial agreements....

Again include me in the negotiations or I get to bill you...It is not my fault you negotiated a crappy contract and it is definitely not my company's obligation to help you fulfill your contractual agreements....

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"Act like a business person"

The goal of a business owner is to meet the needs of their customers while maintaining a profit.

If you own a commercial cleaning business and you can only clean after hours, you have people working second and third shift.

If you own a newspaper, you have people working overnights, and even SUNDAY to meet customers desires of a Sunday paper.

If you work at the local bakery by my house you start at 2am so there is fresh donuts by 6.

If you own a snow removal business, you work overnights and even SUNDAY to ensure people wake up with a clean drive.

This whole discussion of wanting nights and weekends off is the EMPLOYEE mentality, work your 40 and go home, and not a BUSINESS OWNER mentality of setting up a system to ensure your customer needs are met. Nobody says it has to be YOU doing the cleanout on Sunday after you have already worked your butt off all week, but the job needs to get done nevertheless.
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