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I am in Florida. At present we do exterior cleaning and lawncare/landscape as well as handyman tasks. We do "PP" for a few of our customers locally. We have been looking toward doing more PP. I have been doing a lot of reading to make the best informed decision I can. In my reading I learned about the posting on the properties.

We see many vacant houses in our travels. I have noticed most of them have notices they are being services by Safeguard and other names I see you guys talking about. What troubles me is that most of these properties look to be in need of initial service based on the exterior and lawn. Many have winterization notices from last year. So to get to may question. Are these companies not providing the maintenance schedule as required or is there a shortage of PP servicers locally to handle the volume?
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We have been in properties that have sat vacant for 4-5 years and had winterization postings from multiple companies. It isn't a matter of a shortage of contractors as you may think. The servicers do not pay living wages for the quality of work they require. There are plenty of contractors out there that can give top shelf results and put foreclosed properties in showable condition. Problem is the regional/national clients are scraping CL and using unskilled hacks. We are doing basic dry wints this year for $150; why would I risk chargebacks and take the headaches of all the photos and bids and followups for $50?
Long story short, there is no shortage of contractors. They just don't want the ones that expect to be paid.
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Some of the properties may be sitting in the bankruptcy courts or in litigation. I know we can't enter and service a house if an owner has filed for bankruptcy. Some of the houses may be Conventional loan types as well. I've serviced some that have been empty for 5-6 years according to the neighbors.
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I see postings on many of the websites I have been to the National, as you call them, have "specific" of "immediate" need listed for Florida. I am not afraid of work. I do not plan on getting rich quick. I just want to know the facts. I hear the comments about the industry. I have been in several different industries over the years. I know how they all work. I have other work and looking to expand our business. I do not expect easy money. Are any of the posters in Florida that can give me a clear picture as to the status of industry in Florida right now?
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SGP put on a pair of shoes that is way to big
Then tell people to sub and pay $20 for up to acre on recuts. Not many people are willing to do this, so
We are all seeing props that are not being serviced every
2 weeks
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We have been in properties that have sat vacant for 4-5 years and had winterization postings from multiple companies. It isn't a matter of a shortage of contractors as you may think. The servicers do not pay living wages for the quality of work they require. There are plenty of contractors out there that can give top shelf results and put foreclosed properties in showable condition. Problem is the regional/national clients are scraping CL and using unskilled hacks. We are doing basic dry wints this year for $150; why would I risk chargebacks and take the headaches of all the photos and bids and followups for $50?
Long story short, there is no shortage of contractors. They just don't want the ones that expect to be paid.



Exactly, there is no shortage of contractors. Just that most of the legit ones won't work with the risks of charge backs along with the very low pay.


Until the economy retracts more the order mills have pretty much burnt thru the supply of gullible CL hacknutz that were available.
I'm sure occasionally they still find one but over all the companies are getting desperate.

I've gotten a lot of email recruiting in the last month from companies I wrote off long ago.

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Go forward with caution.
It is gonna have to get better sooner rather than later
neighbors and municipalities will see to this
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I see postings on many of the websites I have been to the National, as you call them, have "specific" of "immediate" need listed for Florida. I am not afraid of work. I do not plan on getting rich quick. I just want to know the facts. I hear the comments about the industry. I have been in several different industries over the years. I know how they all work. I have other work and looking to expand our business. I do not expect easy money. Are any of the posters in Florida that can give me a clear picture as to the status of industry in Florida right now?


1. immediate need.

First off these companies are not above lying...... A LOT!
Second this immediate need may just be to gather a list of vendors in an effort to help them win a contract.
The number of stories are countless where a company was super hot to trot lining up vendors left and right, and then NOTHING...... ever.
No work orders at all.


2. getting rich, or easy money
You don't have to worry about that, not with the current state of the industry.
Prices today for many services are far below what they were just a few years ago.
Tell me what other industry out there in all your experience has had their prices go down every year while insurance, operating costs and supplies have gone up year after year????????

I don't know of one.


Please for the sake of your own sanity, and the well being of your family do not put all of your income eggs in the P&P basket.

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Go forward with caution.
It is gonna have to get better sooner rather than later
neighbors and municipalities will see to this




I'm not convinced it'll be sooner.



IF you do decide to go forward make absolutely certain you diversify your income stream.

Its not at all unusual for the P&P work to be going balls out for a few months and about the time the money starts rollin in the stream gets shut off for a couple months.
Or just barely a trickle. You gotta be able to survive those times.

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