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Received an email today from AFS. This is from the price sheet attached. Seems a little short to me. Not sure I would Janitorial clean a 4000 sf house for $375.00 if it was debris free.

An 8' pick up bed is roughly 3 cubic yard with sides and filled as high as the cab. I certain would not load, haul, unload and pay to dump for $375.00.

But I certainly would not do it all for $375.00



Florida State Base Fee
Vendor Base Fee: $375
Services included in Base Fee:
· Janitorial Service (Up to 4,000 sq ft)
· Lawn (Up to 1/4 acre)
· Padlock/Hasp (For securing pool gate only)
· Internal/External Debris (Up to 30 cubic yards)

Is this a normal fees schedule?
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$18.00 thereafter.
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It is becoming the new normal from regionals. New contractors will take these jobs and after two or three figure out they have been had. Then they move on and it starts again. That's why CL is such a big hit with these guys.
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Most contractors who have been in this business long enough to figure profit and overhead wouldn't touch the job if it started out at $18 per yard. This may be the exception but if you do get one with 30 yds, you did everything else on the initial for free and the debris for a little more than $10 per yard. Hmmmm.

Our wints start out at $125-$150. Same for initial yards, rekeys, etc. This company should be below most subs pay grade.
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Received an email today from AFS. This is from the price sheet attached. Seems a little short to me. Not sure I would Janitorial clean a 4000 sf house for $375.00 if it was debris free.

An 8' pick up bed is roughly 3 cubic yard with sides and filled as high as the cab. I certain would not load, haul, unload and pay to dump for $375.00.

But I certainly would not do it all for $375.00



Florida State Base Fee
Vendor Base Fee: $375
Services included in Base Fee:
· Janitorial Service (Up to 4,000 sq ft)
· Lawn (Up to 1/4 acre)
· Padlock/Hasp (For securing pool gate only)
· Internal/External Debris (Up to 30 cubic yards)

Is this a normal fees schedule?
WTF nationals kicking out regional pricing?
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Received an email today from AFS. This is from the price sheet attached. Seems a little short to me. Not sure I would Janitorial clean a 4000 sf house for $375.00 if it was debris free.

An 8' pick up bed is roughly 3 cubic yard with sides and filled as high as the cab. I certain would not load, haul, unload and pay to dump for $375.00.

But I certainly would not do it all for $375.00



Florida State Base Fee
Vendor Base Fee: $375
Services included in Base Fee:
· Janitorial Service (Up to 4,000 sq ft)
· Lawn (Up to 1/4 acre)
· Padlock/Hasp (For securing pool gate only)
· Internal/External Debris (Up to 30 cubic yards)

Is this a normal fees schedule?
RUN, RUN FAST. It IS THE NEW FAS. Field Assetts Services.(FAS) Check them out on the forum. Easiest way to make a million with them is have 2 when you start. They are ruthless and dont have a fu*king clue on how to keep vendors. They are in my rearview mirror and I sujest STRONGLY that you put them there too.
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Splinterpicker I was thinking the price looked just like the crap FAS went to.
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This looks like the crap pricing for Wisconsin FNMA initial services from Cyprexx. Only difference is they expect only 20 CYD for the peanuts.



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Gentlemen DO NOT STRESS. This explains the new bundle pricing:

4. How did FAS come up with this pricing structure?
We diligently reviewed a year’s worth of cost data for every initial services work order. We determined how much we have paid over that time for all of the services that are included the Base Fee. We then chose a Base Fee and amount per CY of debris above 30 CY’s so that the amount paid under the Base Plus program would be the same as what was actually paid out over the last year. Then we rounded the base fee up to the nearest $5 increment, making this slightly revenue favorable to our vendors.


This came from there vendor package. Can we say, all together now, BULL POOPIE!!!! Assuming SH** is not allowed on this site!
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[QUOTE=rrogers66;51978]Gentlemen DO NOT STRESS. This explains the new bundle pricing:

4. How did FAS come up with this pricing structure?
We diligently reviewed a year’s worth of cost data for every initial services work order. We determined how much we have paid over that time for all of the services that are included the Base Fee. We then chose a Base Fee and amount per CY of debris above 30 CY’s so that the amount paid under the Base Plus program would be the same as what was actually paid out over the last year. Then we rounded the base fee up to the nearest $5 increment, making this slightly revenue favorable to our vendors.QUOTE]

Reading that makes me think I am standing in an auditorium with thousands of other lemmings in all white drinking pink slime from a cup watching brother on the megatron.

On the surface the cost data would all be the same. Flat rate is flat rate.
Reviewing debris, # of locks, size of yard, etc, however, they may have decided they could justify cutting the rates. How long did you really think you could get away with robbing FAS for $450?
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