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Aaron, you're asking questions as if the industry is made up of employees. You must want to be an employee.
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I gotta agree with Troy
Those are loaded questions, Aaron

Iíve already told you more than I know.
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Aaron. It's my opinion that as business owners we would rather handle these issues as we see fit. Not some 3rd party with their own agenda. We became business owners because we wanted to negotiate contracts and be our own bosses. If you cannot handle a dispute with your client , maybe you should not be in business is my opinion. Business is about building relationships with your clients. At when unfavorable situations exist, attempt to work it out. What most people who complain or have issues in this industry fail to realize, if you don't like it. Stop doing it. You all are more than talented enough to do similar tasks for other clients or in other industries. Only an employee thinks that this is all they will ever be.

Aaron you have many talents that pay more than PPI is currently paying, why not nurture those talents? We have great examples on this board who have said F--k it. I'm going to take my talents and earn more money with less stress in other fields and get paid quicker.

If any of you have a problem in Pp, use your mouth and brains to work out a solution with your client. As in life, you win some and you lose some. The more mistakes you make, the more you learn what not to do.

I wish you well Double A Ron but I don't think the union is the answer. I believe stronger, educated and trained business owners is what's needed. I believe 90% of the people in this industry shouldn't be in it. That's the problem.
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I answered no to every question. Was this a study to gauge interest so someone could start yet another company to suck money from contractors?

A third party resolution would eventually evolve into a program that only accepts disputes they can easily win. They third party would have to take a percentage or charge a fee in order to exist.

I have an attorney that already does this.

The industry does need access to attorneys that are versed in our business and familiar with how things work.

After being around this website for a while and having guys PM me questions all the time I have learned that most of them are their own worst enemies. When there are a dozen threads complaining about Five Brother don't sign up with them or worse some regional that works for them.
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After being around this website for a while and having guys PM me questions all the time I have learned that most of them are their own worst enemies. When there are a dozen threads complaining about Five Brother don't sign up with them or worse some regional that works for them.
Sad, but true. No amount of warnings seem to be sufficient as some seem to be under the impression that it will never happen to them. I've witnessed companies being demonized for non-payment issues and yet when they post for vendors, people flock to them like lemmings.
It can be a hard lesson to learn...
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Every industry has a conflict resolution system. This is an industry and a business.
Survey's...This is for information on how many feel...Information to generate Industry White Papers and Position Papers.
While I agree to what is being said...I highly question the fact that everyone has a solution and nobody is willing to stand up in solidarity.

Why don't I leave the industry...a couple of pricks have pissed me off...got a problem with that??? If so...
Then you shouldn't practice crappy business ethics and practices. You shouldn't treat me as some stepchild in the corner when I question your business ethics. You should not be a subber stealing from other BOTG's.
I don't speak fabrications of incidents. I bring to light issues that others cower in fear over as they are too afraid to open their mouth fear they wake up with no more work...that is an employee, not a business...and everyone making the argument knows exactly what I speak of.
Some of you have issue with my past, however, none of you can say I speak untruths about the issues in this industry...perhaps slant questions in surveys a touch I'll give you that. However, I do not call into question the companies or people that are respectable only the 5% that screw people over on a daily basis...perhaps this is my redemption???
Not for me to decide.
But I do not speak untruths when it comes to what is going on in this industry...
It is crooked, manipulative, and companies and the membership of NAMFS that have pyramided the PPI routinely steal monies from hard working good people on a daily basis.
Yet only maybe 1-2% of the good contractors will place a comment on an article about a bad contractor of a company conducting themselves with unscrupulous behaviors. Why won't business stick up for themselves?? Perhaps they don't know how to do so, not really sure.

People really need to come out of the closet and start submitting information in systems that will chart the behavior of these companies so the crap stops...sorry but when someone goes to prison for breaking the law they sort of expect others that blatantly break the law to have to deal with their actions....These companies are all but dancing on the steps of the IRS and UEID with their actions and demands.
Next year is going to be very interesting....The people that know how to conduct business and protect their business interests will be fine...those with the employee mindset...well you'll have to go find the unemployment office...
Just because you have a business license and insurance does not make you a business...

I feel honored that organizations have asked me to assist with their efforts in this industry. People have gone out of their way to make me feel welcome and then there have been the others on the other end of that spectrum. I will continue to advocate for the BOTG and as long as organizations are willing to roll the dice with me considering they do so knowing I come with baggage I will continue to assist where I can and help develop programs and policy that will help all parties in this industry. While I do beat the labor issue I have also submitted proposed policies for the industry that if adopted will stop a lot of the crap going on...like Back Charges...debris count controversies AFTER work has been completed...When I submit something I do so with all parties in mind..not like NAMFS and just for "their members". Solutions have to be able to assist everyone involved. NAMFS never includes labor...

So when you look at something on the surface rest assure there is a method to my madness.... just don't ask me to explain it...I don't understand it half the time!!!!!


PM if me if anyone would like to know programs and policies we are currently working on.

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