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I really love the reaction guys gave me. That was awesome. See the kind of people you are. You guys bring out the worst in people. Thank you for the help!
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If this is the hardest forum you participated in, then you haven't visited many.
Preservation work isn't for the thin skinned, so if you have issues with snarky remarks and negativity, then it won't be for you either, and right now I'm referring to nationals. You asked for some clients who handle inspections, and you were told the truth. Nationals pay bottom dollar prices and you would do better to connect with local lenders. What you do works for you and your the exception to the rule.
Preservationtalk is just that. It isn't a referral agency or the road to overnight success. The most common question asked here is
"Who are the best companies to work for?" There is no answer for that.
Disagreements here are fine; so is sarcasm and bluntness. Making personal comments of the nature you did earlier is not. If you can't abide by that, then you'll have to hit the bricks.
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See the kind of people you are. You guys bring out the worst in people. Thank you for the help!
Blaming others for your actions reveals quite a bit.
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All I stated was SG is a wonderful company. I even went as far as offering a little sub work for some extra cash. I guess I can't help people who can help thenselves.
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I think what the vets are trying to say are the $4-8 inspections and other slave wages are screwing up this industry, would you rather make 10 percent of a million or 20percent of half a million? Same amount different work loads. Now excepting those prices are not fixing anything.. they know because they have been there and prob have been screwed themselves.. I have been reading this forum or 3 yrs or so know and have listened to the advice given and have went to local lenders.. if you can't get laughed at for not listening to the wise or atleast let it sit in the back of Your mind then you won't last long doing inspections or pp work. Safeguard is known for screwing people what makes you think they won't you? All in good time. Heed to what is said on here by the vets
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In a best case scenario, with the rates most regionals pay for occupancy checks, interior walk thrus, insurance loss, etc, you need to have metro areas with a whole lot of addresses on your sheet.

But what if, for example, you agree to cover the KY counties of Hart, Butler, Grayson, Ohio and Hardin? Each county may be only 35-45 miles wide, but the counties average around 20,000 people or less. Doing inspections in Lexington, you may have 4 on maple, 13 on oak, 11 on lincoln st, etc.
Try looking for R1 Parson's Hollow, 51CC Spring Lick Fork. 2 hours go by and you've knocked 4 units off your list. Yes, that is an extreme example, but these companies are not basing prices off of what they believe they have to pay for someone to be profitable, they are paying based on a formula of "Drop the price until no one will take the work, then raise it up to the bare minimum."
That my friends is what is called the "Industry Standard."

I'm not knocking anyone who will do whatever it takes to feed their family; just understand that while you may be satisfied with sub standard wages, you shouldn't be surprised when others aren't, and they aren't afraid to say so.
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I remember sitting in on a Safeguard conference call years ago, listening to contractors yelping about the latest price cuts. The educated suit on the other end continued to cut folks off in mid sentence repeating the same line- "If you cannot make a profit doing this work, then this business is not for you."

I suppose that was intended to cause us to reflect and in turn, morph our companies into lean and efficient machines. The thing was, they weren't passing price cuts down to us that HUD gave to them; they were creating the cuts and telling us to eat it. As a business owner, you should never have to endure someone telling you what your value is.

And by the way, I tend to believe the guy from SG was probably chuckling inside and thinking to himself "If we (SG) can't make money doing this, we shouldn't be in business."
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