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Please understand that we are professionals with all the required tools and insurance and licenses to perform our trade.
Please do not call us asking us to do $20.00 grass cuts, $3.00 inspections, $40.00 winterizations and $20.00 CYD trashouts. You see, since we do carry all of our licenses and insurance there is no way of us working for that and making a living.
Here is a thought for you, the company that is 2 or 3 time zones away from us. If you don't have staff in a state then don't offer to cover it hoping that some poor slob will work for you s#&t wages, unless of course you are a true national and not just subbing from a sub. Either get an office or maybe you come out here and do the work yourself.
However on a positive note, we are waiting for when your order mill can't get quality work done and then we will be there to clean up the messes at much better pay.
SO please unless you pay decent wages, DO NOT EVEN CALL!!!
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I bet over half the members here work for that or less. No matte how much yall complain about it there is someone who will work for that.
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I bet over half the members here work for that or less. No matte how much yall complain about it there is someone who will work for that.
You couldn't be more right. I have posted about companies sucking or screwing us and received a PM that same day from this very site someone asking if that company is hiring.
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That is what has allowed this industry to last as long as it has.

Folks that loose their $35k a year job hear those rates and being completely clueless about what goes into a business think they will be shooting a fat pig and sign up.
Only later realizing they've gone totally broke with no hope of every paying the taxes on their big killing.
And along comes the next craigslist wonder person to fill the slot.
lather, rinse repeat ad nauseam.

Professionals are people who can do their job when they don't feel like it.
Amateurs are people that can't do their job even when they do feel like it.
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My response to a company requesting our services.
Thanks for your interest in us however we are a PROFESSIONAL company that pays taxes, carries liability insurance, pays workers compensation to the state of Ohio. We never have nor will we ever cut a lawn for $20 much less an acre 2 feet high. Nor will we remove debris for $18 a yard. You are looking for a teenager with a push mower and a gas can and no overhead or the junk collector with a beat up truck that has no idea what it costs to run a business. I am not going to cut 4 lawns to pay for a background check unless your company would submit to a background check as well. I know what HUD allowable is and I will not let ANY company take advantage of my company. Good luck finding professional companies that will work for your compensation level.
Just sent this out today, think I will get a response?
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Oh yeah, you'll get a response............. it'll sound a whole lot like a group of crickets.

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Oh yeah, you'll get a response............. it'll sound a whole lot like a group of crickets.
Those crickets are really loud today I can hear them especially well.
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Please understand that we are professionals with all the required tools and insurance and licenses to perform our trade.
Please do not call us asking us to do $20.00 grass cuts, $3.00 inspections, $40.00 winterizations and $20.00 CYD trashouts. You see, since we do carry all of our licenses and insurance there is no way of us working for that and making a living.
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However on a positive note, we are waiting for when your order mill can't get quality work done and then we will be there to clean up the messes at much better pay.
SO please unless you pay decent wages, DO NOT EVEN CALL!!!
Good post I think we should all copy and paste this to every Craigs List ad in our local areas looking for contractors. Hey its a start.
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Reality

I've been following this post & many other for a while & have learned a lot from you. I don't normally just jump into the sh-t feet first, but this topic is so true.

Reality is that I'm a small mom & pop type of company (actually just me with other resources when necessary) that can do some of the work at the lower prices. I suspect that a large part of this audience is in a similar situation. Yes You can always find a person to do the work at lower payouts - though I think there is a limit on the type of work required - acre grass cuts I refuse to do for the standard payouts.

So "how do we stop embarrassing ourselves"

Does anybody have a breakdown on this forum as to the size or tier level of the members? Some are high up with direct connections. Others, like me are "bottom" levels.

Just thought we'd start a conversation since this topic is still open. No disrespect meant in anything implied or said. Just thought we should figure out if there is a way of addressing this or this is the way it is
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I've been following this post & many other for a while & have learned a lot from you. I don't normally just jump into the sh-t feet first, but this topic is so true.

Reality is that I'm a small mom & pop type of company (actually just me with other resources when necessary) that can do some of the work at the lower prices. I suspect that a large part of this audience is in a similar situation. Yes You can always find a person to do the work at lower payouts - though I think there is a limit on the type of work required - acre grass cuts I refuse to do for the standard payouts.

So "how do we stop embarrassing ourselves"

Does anybody have a breakdown on this forum as to the size or tier level of the members? Some are high up with direct connections. Others, like me are "bottom" levels.

Just thought we'd start a conversation since this topic is still open. No disrespect meant in anything implied or said. Just thought we should figure out if there is a way of addressing this or this is the way it is
First of all let me say I appreciate your honesty, most people will never admit to being one of the "lower tier" contractors on the site for fear of being bashed so kudos to you.
I'll try to answer your question from my experience and maybe it can help you or someone else view things in a different light.
I started in PP four years ago (don't ask how?, I don't know) but I'm actually a general contractor by trade so when things would get tight in PP I could and have frequentley escaped back into that when I needed in order to avoid 20.00 cuts and 18.00 debris removals,honestley I have'nt done any preservation work in about 2-3 months for any national or regional.

When we are out conducting business rarely do I shake a hand or speak to someone without passing one of our cards to them especially realtors,by doing that and networking with friends ( don't take this the wrong way but churches are goldmines!) and colleagues from every aspect of business we have come to the attention of a couple of local banks that will call us directly to handle their properties ....Diversify spend the time you would losing money on a 20.00 cut and get out and market your company...
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