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Preservationtalk.com Open Community Meetings

One thing I've noticed while browsing this site is the same complaints and issues that keep being brought up. Same stories, different characters.

I propose preservationatalk.com begin having open community meetings and getting together for a virtual conference to discuss what solutions can be presented to NAMFS, MBA, Nationals, CFPB, etc. that are involved with Asset & Property Preservation.

The rules of the forum apply to Open Community Meetings. So no advertising; however, business, networking, and relationship building is encouraged. Think of it as a committee of users who take issues of the industry and create a real game plan. And if users are correct about nationals and banks browsing forums then they should be invited to listen and hear about what solutions are being suggested in the industry, by the industry.

Just a thought...
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The solutions are presented here daily and from what I understand the nationals and banks, etc. do see them here.

They refuse to change them because it works for them.

There is not one problem in this industry that could not be solved by getting more money into the hands of those of us doing the work.
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The solutions are presented here daily and from what I understand the nationals and banks, etc. do see them here.

They refuse to change them because it works for them.

There is not one problem in this industry that could not be solved by getting more money into the hands of those of us doing the work.
its not just the dollars and cents. In my state to go into a PREforclosure is breaking and entering. Does the national care NO. Are they aware the work orders they send out are asking us to commit a crime YES. They will not put up with educated contractors who see through their smoke screens and dog and pony shows.
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Fadie, PreservationTalk is not the place to recruit for GreanTeem, Inc. The majority of your posts are little more than a promotion of your own company/agenda. If we thought the members needed a paid solution to making more money in mortgage field services, we do it ourselves and make it proprietary. You are more than welcome to post paid advertising, however I'd advise keeping your comments from here on out to non sales/membership drive topics. Thanks for listening.
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Fadie, PreservationTalk is not the place to recruit for GreanTeem, Inc. The majority of your posts are little more than a promotion of your own company/agenda. If we thought the members needed a paid solution to making more money in mortgage field services, we do it ourselves and make it proprietary. You are more than welcome to post paid advertising, however I'd advise keeping your comments from here on out to non sales/membership drive topics. Thanks for listening.
They are EMPTY and meaning less dribble. How is it that you expect to compete GLOBALLY when LOCAL ( on the same continent) companies cant seem to figure out how to make a profit other than dropping compensation ??


1) Throw us a bone as to what you expect pay for a initial lock change with an initial yard that is 4 ft tall and 30000 sq ft. The we shall see if you are serious about making a go in this.

2) Be forewarned certain states consider PPR work Breaking and entering. If you can tell me why that is then you MIGHT be able to start to gain some favor here. Sharpen your pencil.

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its not just the dollars and cents. In my state to go into a PREforclosure is breaking and entering. Does the national care NO. Are they aware the work orders they send out are asking us to commit a crime YES. They will not put up with educated contractors who see through their smoke screens and dog and pony shows.

Same here unless the lender files for a writ of possession. Or if someone else already changed the locks and you have proof that the locks were changed previously.
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Same here unless the lender files for a writ of possession. Or if someone else already changed the locks and you have proof that the locks were changed previously.
Thano I am glad YOU have done your home work ! This question was directed to Grean team to see if they had a CLUE about what they were doing. Thanks for the answer to and Keep it legal !
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They are EMPTY and meaning less dribble. How is it that you expect to compete GLOBALLY when LOCAL ( on the same continent) companies cant seem to figure out how to make a profit other than dropping compensation ??


1) Throw us a bone as to what you expect pay for a initial lock change with an initial yard that is 4 ft tall and 30000 sq ft. The we shall see if you are serious about making a go in this.

2) Be forewarned certain states consider PPR work Breaking and entering. If you can tell me why that is then you MIGHT be able to start to gain some favor here. Sharpen your pencil.

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What do I expect to pay you? First of all, the marketplace has work from over 1,000 clients. Our goal is to bring as many enterprises as possible into system. We have strategic alliance partners that we are building for every team within our network. A team is a geographical location, i.e. Arizona.

The Grean Team sends work into the marketplace at the price given by client, i.e. $150 for $150. The Grean Team charges a transaction fee to the client. In some cases, the client charges their resource to pay for the transaction fee, but that would be listed on work assignment before you accept the work from the client.

So to specifically answer your question I would be unable to give you a direct answer because clients who create the work are the ones who send the work through The Grean Team. Their prices are reflected in the starting prices. But I'm going to throw a bone to you...

75% of HUD Pricing is fair. The Safeguards and NFR's of the world are made to be the office operations outsourced. So, if I was the one creating the work I am going to pay you HUD Pricing --- 25% flat across the board to pay for my office operations. Keep in mind, I said 25% flat, so nothing on price sheet will be modified to be more than 25%. Some items may even be less than 25% in the case of a pool boarding and winterizations, as well as inspections. Pricing in our system however, is based on a real market. So this paragraph is an old viewpoint of the pricing system, but it was made to "answer" your question.

As far as certain states considering PPR work breaking and entering, this is a general and vague statement that I'd have to agree with --- only because I believe the office operations that the global institutions have outsourced are unfixable. When you hire out of field personnel who have no industry backing or understanding, you have a communication gap. This then creates problems through lack of being able to think on their own --- both contractor and your office personnel. Both parties are in fear of their job, their livelihood, and that they may be on the edge of being fired and replaced.

So the contractor who was hired by the office staff to quickly "drive-by" the property to verify the occupancy, reports that the property is vacant from a kitchen table in Minnesota, for a house in Florida, because the client wants to get it done for $3.

Vacant status means we need to now move towards ownership of the asset. Since 80% of the law is possession, then we move to maintain the property so when the law of probability is in our favor and the home comes to us, we are already ahead of the curve for conveyance.

Now an initial secure work order is created and what is supposed to happen is that order is only to begin the process of taking ownership, i.e. reason for the secondary lock; however, because the game of greed someone along the lines orders a work order that is not legal to make more money.

Work orders for trash outs when legal process has not yet allowed anything, i.e. bankruptcy is a huge problem. Work orders for lock changes when there is partial vacancy or in states that have a judicial foreclosure process (banks in states with judicial foreclosure must go through the courts while non-judicial foreclosure states simply go through a process which usually includes steps to publicize the foreclosure and legally take possession and ownership of asset) that is still on going and has yet to receive the proper required documentation from the court allowing the bank to move forward.

There are tons of problems, the question really is though... what are you doing to solve them?

Foreclosure is a business.
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Fadie, PreservationTalk is not the place to recruit for GreanTeem, Inc. The majority of your posts are little more than a promotion of your own company/agenda. If we thought the members needed a paid solution to making more money in mortgage field services, we do it ourselves and make it proprietary. You are more than welcome to post paid advertising, however I'd advise keeping your comments from here on out to non sales/membership drive topics. Thanks for listening.
GTX63, roger that.
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As far as certain states considering PPR work breaking and entering, this is a general and vague statement that I'd have to agree with --- only because I believe the office operations that the global institutions have outsourced are unfixable. When you hire out of field personnel who have no industry backing or understanding, you have a communication gap. This then creates problems through lack of being able to think on their own --- both contractor and your office personnel. Both parties are in fear of their job, their livelihood, and that they may be on the edge of being fired and replaced.

So the contractor who was hired by the office staff to quickly "drive-by" the property to verify the occupancy, reports that the property is vacant from a kitchen table in Minnesota, for a house in Florida, because the client wants to get it done for $3.

Vacant status means we need to now move towards ownership of the asset. Since 80% of the law is possession, then we move to maintain the property so when the law of probability is in our favor and the home comes to us, we are already ahead of the curve for conveyance.

Now an initial secure work order is created and what is supposed to happen is that order is only to begin the process of taking ownership, i.e. reason for the secondary lock; however, because the game of greed someone along the lines orders a work order that is not legal to make more money

you have an 50% correct answer. It boils down to Possession AND OWNWESHIP Its NO different than a landlord and tenant relationship.

Also your example of the HUD pricing is Ambiguous. Is that a 25% discount to be taken off HUD for your cut or you are paying 25% of HUD pricing ?? I realize this is just an example
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