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How much control do we have?

During a recent conversation with a guy at a national the guy on the other end of the line told me that the contractors need to band together and start getting some of the changes we have been looking for.

I personally don't believe there could be a union or any kind of organization established. The only way I see it is we would basically have to create our own National, or field service company. The idea behind Lamco was a good one. The execution was terrible and it became just another company of paper pushers running field crews.

There needs to be a group of good contractors who can offer superior service and results at a reasonable and fair price.

I'm Pipe dreaming I know but as it sits we have zero control over our futures. We have paper pushers telling banks "yeah sure we will do that" and they just add more and more to each work order then they cut prices.
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During a recent conversation with a guy at a national the guy on the other end of the line told me that the contractors need to band together and start getting some of the changes we have been looking for.

I personally don't believe there could be a union or any kind of organization established. The only way I see it is we would basically have to create our own National, or field service company. The idea behind Lamco was a good one. The execution was terrible and it became just another company of paper pushers running field crews.

There needs to be a group of good contractors who can offer superior service and results at a reasonable and fair price.

I'm Pipe dreaming I know but as it sits we have zero control over our futures. We have paper pushers telling banks "yeah sure we will do that" and they just add more and more to each work order then they cut prices.
Those of us who were or are still in the business that are members of this site were and are "good contractors that can and did offer superior service and results at a reasonable and fair price" We all know what happens to those of us that meet and met this criteria!!
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Find a different line of work is your best and safest bet.
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Find a different line of work is your best and safest bet.

I agree 100% but for those who refuse to move on there needs to be a solution.
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Those of us who were or are still in the business that are members of this site were and are "good contractors that can and did offer superior service and results at a reasonable and fair price" We all know what happens to those of us that meet and met this criteria!!

Why would you say that is?
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Yep, no control.. that is the phrase im always dealing with, the one phrase the contractors will never understand or the office staff. I'm the only one in the whole outfit that truly understands what it means. 12 yrs Ive dealt with that phase, its been so long that it grown to be apart of who i am, like moss on a tree. I'm not sure if i could even do something that stability involved with anymore. Ive grown so a custom to the circus its become my home, sad isn't.

But i guess im one of the lucky ones im making money saving it and i purchased some commercial property from the profits and will develop into something were the money comes to me. Im not sure yet what it will be tho, but i have some ideas. Beer only store or a convenience store, large plant nursery, used car lot. IDK... I have the money to do it but im having trouble stopping what im doing. The sh*t just grows on you after awhile. Plus i love my contractors, i love seeing them succeed and working and being a go between from the monsters. its one hell of a dilemma im in.

A clearing house of contractor contacts and a data base, enforced by contractors, for contractors. A one stop shop for all p&p only, let the inspectors have their own data base. Personally i believe inspection and P&P shouldn't be mixed with he same company's or allowed for that matter.

I spoke to our RNM today and he is leaving to move over into the inspection Dept, he will no longer be doing the P&P side. we are losing him, they say he is getting to close to the contractors and building to strong of a relationship with them. He has been standing up for us one to many time they say.. Don't repeat what i said either, I didn't give him the word to bring me back yet, we just talked about him and his move. It turns out the lawyers in the CDR dept are worried about me canning them again if things get tuff. they don't like me being so close to my insurance carrier.. turn out the threat of my carrier standing up for me has rattled a few lawyers up their IN THE deep bowls of the under ground nit-wits. You would think with all the money Ive made those clowns they would get a clue. Their torn between my work and my complete area coverage, and the fact that my replacements have been under preforming .. all 3 of them.. LOL. Its funny they think i make to much money after the discounts even tho i pay my boots on the ground more than the regionals can pay. AND THEY WONDER WHY..

OK MY RANT IS OVER

But on a side note i think the housing industry and our industry in particular is about to explode again here real soon.
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Yep, no control.. that is the phrase im always dealing with, the one phrase the contractors will never understand or the office staff. I'm the only one in the whole outfit that truly understands what it means. 12 yrs Ive dealt with that phase, its been so long that it grown to be apart of who i am, like moss on a tree. I'm not sure if i could even do something that stability involved with anymore. Ive grown so a custom to the circus its become my home, sad isn't.

But i guess im one of the lucky ones im making money saving it and i purchased some commercial property from the profits and will develop into something were the money comes to me. Im not sure yet what it will be tho, but i have some ideas. Beer only store or a convenience store, large plant nursery, used car lot. IDK... I have the money to do it but im having trouble stopping what im doing. The sh*t just grows on you after awhile. Plus i love my contractors, i love seeing them succeed and working and being a go between from the monsters. its one hell of a dilemma im in.

A clearing house of contractor contacts and a data base, enforced by contractors, for contractors. A one stop shop for all p&p only, let the inspectors have their own data base. Personally i believe inspection and P&P shouldn't be mixed with he same company's or allowed for that matter.

I spoke to our RNM today and he is leaving to move over into the inspection Dept, he will no longer be doing the P&P side. we are losing him, they say he is getting to close to the contractors and building to strong of a relationship with them. He has been standing up for us one to many time they say.. Don't repeat what i said either, I didn't give him the word to bring me back yet, we just talked about him and his move. It turns out the lawyers in the CDR dept are worried about me canning them again if things get tuff. they don't like me being so close to my insurance carrier.. turn out the threat of my carrier standing up for me has rattled a few lawyers up their IN THE deep bowls of the under ground nit-wits. You would think with all the money Ive made those clowns they would get a clue. Their torn between my work and my complete area coverage, and the fact that my replacements have been under preforming .. all 3 of them.. LOL. Its funny they think i make to much money after the discounts even tho i pay my boots on the ground more than the regionals can pay. AND THEY WONDER WHY..

OK MY RANT IS OVER

But on a side note i think the housing industry and our industry in particular is about to explode again here real soon.
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Received this today. My response "When the neighbor starts paying for our services we will be glad to satisfy their complaints. Until then if you can get us an approval prior to performing the work we will be happy to complete this work. We will not be performing the work BATF."
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Received this today. My response "When the neighbor starts paying for our services we will be glad to satisfy their complaints. Until then if you can get us an approval prior to performing the work we will be happy to complete this work. We will not be performing the work BATF."
The negotiation has started in Ernest with them today, got that call again, their wanting to assign me a new contractor number, and expunge me of all work Ive for them over the yrs. Now i must say this.. this is A very unusual turn of a vents of such a large company. plus word is they are getting ready for new account to come on board soon. I'm thinking its a big one. and it going to put even more pressure on them to relax their standards.

Their your bread and butter..lol.. the one that got away clean as you said last nite..lol
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The negotiation has started in Ernest with them today, got that call again, their wanting to assign me a new contractor number, and expunge me of all work Ive for them over the yrs. Now i must say this.. this is A very unusual turn of a vents of such a large company. plus word is they are getting ready for new account to come on board soon. I'm thinking its a big one. and it going to put even more pressure on them to relax their standards.

Their your bread and butter..lol.. the one that got away clean as you said last nite..lol
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