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Lock change at housing complex

I had this issue a few times lately and I would like to know how you guys handle this...
today I had a securing order in housing complex, on the door was hanging a realtor lock box with a phone number so before starting to drill the lock I called that number, they told me that i shouldn't do anything and according to them this apartment is not in foreclosure process.. I went to management office, they threw me out together with my work order, saying they would call police if I touch anything without Leagle documents.. I had very similar situations in the past, but all comes down to the same question, am I legally allowed to break into condo or co ops (without damaging the door) etc. ??
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go home,grab a shovel and smash thru the office door and let them know whos in charge.......im kidding, i would just report exactly what happened in your work order notes, its not worth the aggravation for the 80 bucks your gonna make
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go home,grab a shovel and smash thru the office door and let them know whos in charge.......im kidding, i would just report exactly what happened in your work order notes, its not worth the aggravation for the 80 bucks your gonna make
Ok, so basically I don't break locks at a housing complex unless I get permission from the management office( which I will probably never get)?
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Ok, so basically I don't break locks at a housing complex unless I get permission from the management office( which I will probably never get)?
No you report exactly what happened and go on to the next work order.
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I have had the same thing in condo buildings. Informed client that we were not allowed to change the locks because the building required all locks to be the same design.
Also there were a few where they would not let us in the building even with a work order.
Usually just tell the client that their client needs to work it out.
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now, legally speaking, am I legally allowed to break a lock to gain entry in condo buildings? I'm always asked "who exactly are you" ? so I say a contractor which works for the bank (not directly just I work for this guy and they do orders for this guy till a national and then to a bank etc.) so they would tell me unless u don't bring REAL DOCUMENTATION I won't let u do anything here.. so what's the real deal here? trying to figure out if because I have a work order, I can do anything or I can get In trouble ...
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Obviously they want some thing more than what could easily be done up on a home computer, aka the w/o.


Report to your client that you were refused entry to the property.

I can assure you that if you ignore the manager they will call the 5 0. You may or may not end up in cuffs.
Depends on if the management company wants to have you arrested for trespass after he told you to leave.

Even if you don't end up in cuffs the cop will tell you the same thing, "LEAVE like the nice lady at the front desk told you to do!!!"
Is it worth it for the meager scraps you are going to get paid for the lock change?????????

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Amateurs are people that can't do their job even when they do feel like it.
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Get the legals from the Servicer, make 10 phone calls to various people in the chain of command, install your locks and provide the keys to the management company since the Condo Assoc owns the exterior of that door and make your -$100 since you will lose money on the job OR do what everyone is saying and turn order back stating No Access to Condo Building But Here Is The Management Companies Phone Number.
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now, legally speaking, am I legally allowed to break a lock to gain entry in condo buildings? .. so what's the real deal here? trying to figure out if because I have a work order, I can do anything or I can get In trouble ...
Is there anyone else below you on this food chain? If not, then if anything starts to go sideways, you will be held liable.

There is a perception from the public, maybe rightfully so, that some subcontractors break into property under the guise of securing it, and proceed to remove personals. The money getting paid to rekey isn't as important to them as the loot inside that they can load up and resell. There are plenty of news stories to google if you are interested. Regardless of how long that Xbox and microwave have been sitting on the living room floor, there is a legal process to follow, and they are not "there for the taking". Just because your client doesn't do their due diligence doesn't let you off the hook if you proceed against the condo association.
Do you know without a doubt the specific legal status of the property?
Did the client order a personal property eviction or just skipped the expense based on a $6 inspection?
If there is ever a doubt about the status of a property we are given a work order for, it gets turned around and sent back up the ladder, and we move on to something else.
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You may also want to check if you need to be a locksmith...
many states and municipalities have passed legislation on this...check with your local authorities...
Forget the work order instructions...find out what you can legally do behind your business license...

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