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Just some thoughts on pricing, something to think about.

In some of the threads people talk about quality of work & the correlation with what can be expected from industry pricing.

I think that people may be going in the wrong direction here. If this attitude exists throughout the industry then the general idea is to perform low quality work because that's what they feel they are being paid for.

How about the idea of flipping the script. I think it's possible that if the idea of quality changes as in everyone capable completes work to the higher quality it could lead to better pay structures.

Reasoning - Higher quality work should weed out those who continue performing lower quality work. With high quality work being performed demand for those performing the work will rise as there will be noticeable differences. This ultimately leads to higher industry pricing by default as the industry expectations rise as does demand for those doing this work.

By not having highest quality & expectation standards the industry gets diluted & flooded, it basically opens the door for more companies & contractors lowering demand (for average work) & increasing supply (of companies performing average work). By flipping quality expectations in time it should flip supply & demand.
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Just some thoughts on pricing, something to think about.

In some of the threads people talk about quality of work & the correlation with what can be expected from industry pricing.

I think that people may be going in the wrong direction here. If this attitude exists throughout the industry then the general idea is to perform low quality work because that's what they feel they are being paid for.

How about the idea of flipping the script. I think it's possible that if the idea of quality changes as in everyone capable completes work to the higher quality it could lead to better pay structures.

Reasoning - Higher quality work should weed out those who continue performing lower quality work. With high quality work being performed demand for those performing the work will rise as there will be noticeable differences. This ultimately leads to higher industry pricing by default as the industry expectations rise as does demand for those doing this work.

By not having highest quality & expectation standards the industry gets diluted & flooded, it basically opens the door for more companies & contractors lowering demand (for average work) & increasing supply (of companies performing average work). By flipping quality expectations in time it should flip supply & demand.
That won't work with the nationals or regionals because they don't want to pay for quality work and will keep the prices as low as they can to maximize their profits. But working with realitors and investors that's what they expect and will compensate for quality work. My thought anyways.
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I just got off the phone with a national and pointed out several mistakes in Kentucky. I sent in pictures and gave work order numbers. What I heard back was maybe you guys should pull out of Kentucky if it is frustrating you so badly. We have 2 people or 3 that make it work.

I asked did you look at any of those pictures? They clearly aren't handling it. To which I heard "they cover the entire state I'm sure they make mistakes and our QC will catch them!"

I almost called and signed up for inspections just so I can hang some dudes out to dry!
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I just got off the phone with a national and pointed out several mistakes in Kentucky. I sent in pictures and gave work order numbers. What I heard back was maybe you guys should pull out of Kentucky if it is frustrating you so badly. We have 2 people or 3 that make it work.

I asked did you look at any of those pictures? They clearly aren't handling it. To which I heard "they cover the entire state I'm sure they make mistakes and our QC will catch them!"

I almost called and signed up for inspections just so I can hang some dudes out to dry!

I completely forgot about all that nonsense. I have had a slow winter, and when I read what you said it all came back. What would always happen to me if I was to report the nonsense/hazard creating work I saw it was a ****storm for me for the next few weeks.

The best part is when the ****storm is over you get back to more routine. But as things are going back to normal you see that these companies have gone and completed every decent bid you put in, made a mess of all your grass cuts, so you never bother to go that route again. That was my experience anyway. The **** I've seen these people do is outrageous - destroying roofs that are less then 5 years old, completing work so hazardously an non-compliant with building codes that all you can do is hope nobody gets injured. A technical term for what these companies are doing would be "Mortgagee Neglect". But in a positive light in the long run at least we won't be the ones paying our insurance dedubtibles.
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