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Disappearing SG orders

I NEED YOUR HELP!!! I've mentioned this before BUT I need to know if you have had any Safeguard grass cut orders that have just disappeared without any notification. I've close to 50 in the last month that have disappeared. No cancellation email. No notification of any kind. These orders are not in the CANCELLATION TAB either on Vendor Web. I use PPW to track my orders so that's what I check them against. SG says I'm crazy (partially true) and they've sent notifications but I've not received anything...
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I NEED YOUR HELP!!! I've mentioned this before BUT I need to know if you have had any Safeguard grass cut orders that have just disappeared without any notification. I've close to 50 in the last month that have disappeared. No cancellation email. No notification of any kind. These orders are not in the CANCELLATION TAB either on Vendor Web. I use PPW to track my orders so that's what I check them against. SG says I'm crazy (partially true) and they've sent notifications but I've not received anything...
Why are you doing their grass cut is beyond me to begin with
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Don't worry it's a cost savings measure or in other words a Profit Boost for SG.

They will drop for 2-3 cycles then put the work order back into your que for completion of a Routine Grass cut at routine prices. By then the grass is 12-24" tall so you will place a bid due to excessive grass height. This will take another 2 recut cycles while they look for another vendor to complete at the Routine Cut rates. Now the poor lawn hasn't been cut for 2 months and SG will send you another routine cut work order and by now your desperate (most cut crews will be) and you will bid again and start the cycle over again or suck-it-up and do the work.

Either way you lose and SG wins.
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Don't worry it's a cost savings measure or in other words a Profit Boost for SG.

They will drop for 2-3 cycles then put the work order back into your que for completion of a Routine Grass cut at routine prices. By then the grass is 12-24" tall so you will place a bid due to excessive grass height. This will take another 2 recut cycles while they look for another vendor to complete at the Routine Cut rates. Now the poor lawn hasn't been cut for 2 months and SG will send you another routine cut work order and by now your desperate (most cut crews will be) and you will bid again and start the cycle over again or suck-it-up and do the work.

Either way you lose and SG wins.
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You just said it all in one short paragraph...nicely done Wannabe. On a side note HALLSERV, SG is losing Nationstar June 1st so might want to upload any of those before they disappear too.
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You just said it all in one short paragraph...nicely done Wannabe. On a side note HALLSERV, SG is losing Nationstar June 1st so might want to upload any of those before they disappear too.
Its a beautiful thing! SG losing all their clients..
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Its a beautiful thing! SG losing all their clients..
Unfortunately they have done so much damage to the overall industry in general, their race to the bottom model has been copied so many times and repeated by everyone from other large players right down to the mom and pops. The entire industry is becoming a sad worn out joke.
Can an industry survive, that is financed from the bottom up, of the guy at the bottom is afraid to put his money on the line?
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Ohnojim,

Bingo on your post. I had a phone call from a "friend" last night that is a vendor recruiter for a national. It was a catchup call to see how everyone's doing but he commented that it's so dang hard to find contractors who have a nestegg to survive past a week worth of work order expenses.
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Ohnojim,

Bingo on your post. I had a phone call from a "friend" last night that is a vendor recruiter for a national. It was a catchup call to see how everyone's doing but he commented that it's so dang hard to find contractors who have a nestegg to survive past a week worth of work order expenses.
aren't stupid enough to risk it on companies who's business model is to screw you out of it, and stretch out the payments as long as they can.

I have a good line of credit, will I risk my money with most of these companies? Why should I? I'm winding it down aggressively right now. As the pricing continues to drop, they are getting what they pay for, they can no longer afford me.

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Ohnojim,

Bingo on your post. I had a phone call from a "friend" last night that is a vendor recruiter for a national. It was a catchup call to see how everyone's doing but he commented that it's so dang hard to find contractors who have a nestegg to survive past a week worth of work order expenses.
aren't stupid enough to risk it on companies who's business model is to screw you out of it, and stretch out the payments as long as they can.

I have a good line of credit, will I risk my money with most of these companies? Why should I? I'm winding it down aggressively right now. As the pricing continues to drop, they are getting what they pay for, they can no longer afford me.
We dropped our last client today whose name starts with S. Get a survey about SG quality assessment, not because we quit, I guess they have vendors fleeing. We were doing hazards only and today was it

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