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post #1 of 61 (permalink) Old 02-29-2012, 08:20 PM Thread Starter
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Paying Employees for Drive Time

Lets here how you other big players in the industry work drive time.

I can't be the only one that gets some 2 or 3 hr rides to the job site.




At a former job a long time ago we got paid drive time from the shop to the job and our work hours.
The ride back to the shop was on us. Company truck.



I've been arguing with some one on this. They feel that no drive time should be paid for as long as they are riding the company rig. I disagree.
I want to hear how you guys do it.
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post #2 of 61 (permalink) Old 02-29-2012, 08:31 PM
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I pay drive time both ways. I had considered coming up with a lower pay rate for driving time. I'd personally do $X an hour less for drive time versus work time before I'd pay nothing.
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post #3 of 61 (permalink) Old 02-29-2012, 08:37 PM
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We pay both ways as they are hauling equipment/trailer with our vehicles to and from the job. Our lead hands are not done work until all is locked and parked and this is an important part of the day and we feel deserves full pay. Wow 2 to 3 hours is some major travel and is expensive!
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Are you an employee or a subcontractor? It sounds like you are an employee. I'm not a "big" player but if I am paying all the expenses, the job is 2-3 hours away and we're only talking 1 job, sorry but I'm not paying drive time either. If the job ends up being just a trip charge, after my lousy discount, gas, insurance costs, I've already lost money and that's before I paid you. If I'm lucky enough to have a cleanout, I still have all those expenses plus dumpster fees (or maybe just landfill costs).

The other reason I don't pay for drive time is maybe you don't drive as fast as me! And seriously, if you're on the clock, I'll guarantee you aren't driving as fast as me. Case in point -- this happened this week: Sent a contractor up to do a job approx 4 hours away where he had to meet another contractor in another city to help with the job. He dinked around in town for 1.5 hrs before he even left town and seemed surprised when he realized I knew what time he actually left. So he's running around town in my vehicle using my gas and was late in meeting the other contractor. I was not a happy camper.

I'm all for being fair. But I'm really tired of taking it in the shorts from subs who think I'm some sort of millionaire with money to burn.
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To and from work no, everything in between yes.
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But if you have a 4-6 hour round trip drive time in which your worker is only doing two hours of work, who would agree to spend 6-8 hours working for you for 2 hours of pay?

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Are you an employee or a subcontractor? It sounds like you are an employee. I'm not a "big" player but if I am paying all the expenses, the job is 2-3 hours away and we're only talking 1 job, sorry but I'm not paying drive time either. If the job ends up being just a trip charge, after my lousy discount, gas, insurance costs, I've already lost money and that's before I paid you. If I'm lucky enough to have a cleanout, I still have all those expenses plus dumpster fees (or maybe just landfill costs).

The other reason I don't pay for drive time is maybe you don't drive as fast as me! And seriously, if you're on the clock, I'll guarantee you aren't driving as fast as me. Case in point -- this happened this week: Sent a contractor up to do a job approx 4 hours away where he had to meet another contractor in another city to help with the job. He dinked around in town for 1.5 hrs before he even left town and seemed surprised when he realized I knew what time he actually left. So he's running around town in my vehicle using my gas and was late in meeting the other contractor. I was not a happy camper.

I'm all for being fair. But I'm really tired of taking it in the shorts from subs who think I'm some sort of millionaire with money to burn.
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If the distance is outside the scope of what is normally expected, then I think some form of compensation would be acceptable.
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If the distance is outside the scope of what is normally expected, then I think some form of compensation would be acceptable.
So long as the norm is clearly defined. If not I could see the norm shrinking, and shrinking.. :whistling:
post #9 of 61 (permalink) Old 02-29-2012, 09:01 PM
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2-3 hours one way..bid a hotel into the job and pay them to the job on Monday and home on Friday. Run the numbers..prob about a wash between paying them , fuel, and lost motivation vs just getting the hotel. We charge drive time for anything over 30-40 min at a reduced rate. We have a temp employee now and he gets paid to job in am but not back to shop. He is riding shotgun. It's only a 15 min ride.
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But if you have a 4-6 hour round trip drive time in which your worker is only doing two hours of work, who would agree to spend 6-8 hours working for you for 2 hours of pay?
Paid by the job.
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