fas and boa - REO Property Preservation Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 05-18-2012, 10:51 PM
d+jhomeservices
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
fas and boa

i was certain fas lost boa work but got a w.o today for reo bank of america va loan,a new 1 on me,has anyone else been getting boa work from fas
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 23 (permalink) Old 05-18-2012, 11:58 PM
PropPresPro
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by d+jhomeservices
i was certain fas lost boa work but got a w.o today for reo bank of america va loan,a new 1 on me,has anyone else been getting boa work from fas
FAS took over all BOA work here last October. They tried their hardest to sign up mtmtnman and I as vendors to service those houses but neither of us will work for their prices. Their next closest vendor was 170 miles away. As a result, BOA suffered major losses due to freeze damage, by the time they got themselves a local vendor.

I have so far grossed over $25K this year solely from the aftermath of FAS's inability to get all the BOA houses winterized in a timely manner last winter, with more bids still out.
post #3 of 23 (permalink) Old 05-19-2012, 05:24 PM
Senior Member
 
Splinterpicker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: west coast USA
Posts: 616
Thanks: 53
Thanked 213 Times in 135 Posts
FAS has and will continue to have "ISSUES" as long as they beat down their vendors at the "SAKE" of their investors as they are a publicly held company or subsidiary of one. The only way, it seems, for them to make money is to drop the prices to the vendors and still mark up the bids over 60 YES 60 %. I have NO problem with people making money of others, that is business. It is when they get FAT and drop the vendors price I have a problem with. NOW trashouts that are LARGE are going to be at a CYD of up to 35 % off of an already lowered price. The new price will be 12 per yard and that is NOT meeting the standards of quality work. 125 cyd of paint to a cube (22$) and this is supposed to be from a "GREEN" company. I would have to assume that paint is getting poured down drains and in corners of yards at that price.
Splinterpicker is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 23 (permalink) Old 05-21-2012, 10:41 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 751
Thanks: 123
Thanked 504 Times in 253 Posts
Once latex paint is dry it is not a hazard. I went round and round with the local dump about this and finally they went to the EPA to prove me wrong and found out I was right.

I pour it out onto scrap plywood to dry and then toss the whole thing. I leave the lids off the cans and when they dry I toss them in the trash too.

You still have to dispose of oil based paints and solvents, but I get very little of this and I dispose of this at various other places that take it legally.
Gypsos is offline  
post #5 of 23 (permalink) Old 05-21-2012, 11:31 PM
PropPresPro
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gypsos
Once latex paint is dry it is not a hazard. I went round and round with the local dump about this and finally they went to the EPA to prove me wrong and found out I was right.

I pour it out onto scrap plywood to dry and then toss the whole thing. I leave the lids off the cans and when they dry I toss them in the trash too.

You still have to dispose of oil based paints and solvents, but I get very little of this and I dispose of this at various other places that take it legally.
So do you remove/dispose of paint for the cubic yard allowable?
post #6 of 23 (permalink) Old 05-22-2012, 05:35 AM
Super Moderator
 
GTX63's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Your House Soon...Soon
Posts: 3,186
Thanks: 676
Thanked 2,249 Times in 1,094 Posts
Yes, clean out a ex painters house with 300+ cans of paint and watch the eyes of the landfill manager as you pull up with those on your trailer. What a money maker they make those out to be, lol.
GTX63 is offline  
post #7 of 23 (permalink) Old 05-22-2012, 07:52 AM
PropPresPro
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by GTX63
Yes, clean out a ex painters house with 300+ cans of paint and watch the eyes of the landfill manager as you pull up with those on your trailer. What a money maker they make those out to be, lol.
Empty cans of latex paint? Sure!

What about partial or full cans? Do you go through the extra steps required to properly dispose of these for the allowable? Load them up and haul them back to the shop, unload them, open each one up pour them out on the plywood or mix sawdust or something so they'll solidify, reload them and finally haul them and now possibly the plywood as well to the landfill. Lets say you are getting full HUD CY allowable minus 20%, do you do all that to 30-40 gallons per cubic yard for $40?

All of my local landfills have no problem accepting solidified latex paint as non hazardous debris. Simply pay $31.05 per ton and dump away. They will even accept oil/solvent based paints and stains for free, but they only do this once a month, so I have to load from the house, unload at my shop, store until that one Saturday per month, remember to set the required appointment with the landfill for their hazmat collection day event, reload and haul to the dump on that special Saturday and pour them out.

I learned early on that a profit cannot be made when paints are disposed of for the cubic yard allowable, and after explaining this to my clients, none of them have any problems paying me a 'hazardous waste' disposal fee per gallon, to help cover all the extra costs involved in their disposal.
post #8 of 23 (permalink) Old 05-22-2012, 08:02 AM
Super Moderator
 
GTX63's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Your House Soon...Soon
Posts: 3,186
Thanks: 676
Thanked 2,249 Times in 1,094 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by PropPresPro
Empty cans of latex paint? Sure!

What about partial or full cans? Do you go through the extra steps required to properly dispose of these for the allowable? Load them up and haul them back to the shop, unload them, open each one up pour them out on the plywood or mix sawdust or something so they'll solidify, reload them and finally haul them and now possibly the plywood as well to the landfill. Lets say you are getting full HUD CY allowable minus 20%, do you do all that to 30-40 gallons per cubic yard for $40?

I learned early on that a profit cannot be made when paints are disposed of for the cubic yard allowable, and after explaining this to my clients, none of them have any problems paying me a 'hazardous waste' disposal fee per gallon, to help cover all the extra costs involved in their disposal.
No, we don't do them per cubic yard. My guys had fits trying to check, dry and dispose of them. I guess companies like Safeguard expect you to hide paint and tires under the loads in your dump trailer. We have had a couple nationals try and muscle us into doing it on the cheap by telling us that it is part of the new regs and "that is all the client is willing to pay for". Right. We forward the local EPA regs and the landfill requirements along with our bid to dispose and leave it at that.
GTX63 is offline  
post #9 of 23 (permalink) Old 05-22-2012, 07:22 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 751
Thanks: 123
Thanked 504 Times in 253 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by PropPresPro
So do you remove/dispose of paint for the cubic yard allowable?
No. Never. Period. Our landifll cannot legally accept them from a business if they are still a liquid. The only option I have if they are leiquid iis to pay a hazmat company to take them or store them for the semi-annual amnesty day.

The last time I checked hazmat company rates were $235 for a 55 gallon barrel of latex paint.

If it is a few cans I pour them on plywood to dry them. If it is a lot I bid to make sure I can cover the labor and disposal fees for at $235 per 30 one gallon cans because that is approximately how many fit in a barrel.
Gypsos is offline  
post #10 of 23 (permalink) Old 05-23-2012, 01:24 PM
Open carry
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
WOW, that's crazy. Where I am at we have a Haz-Mat drop off 6 days a week. They take the paint and pour it all into a huge mixer (latex and oil based both in same place) and make paint that they sell back to the public. It's free to drop off and the paint can be in any condition. ALL chemicals are free to drop off except in drums where there is a small charge. I didn't know how lucky I was until I read this.
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the REO Property Preservation Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome