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post #1 of 64 (permalink) Old 05-30-2012, 02:31 PM
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SG and debris removal

I was wondering if anyone else has issue with SG cutting invoices for debris removal or it's just us
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I was wondering if anyone else has issue with SG cutting invoices for debris removal or it's just us
Nope. SG always pays me on time and always the correct amount. They never do invoice adjustments. Solid company with a bunch of cool headed well rounded individuals.
On a serious note spend 5 minutes and read through the forum. It's funny how people are quick to post a question because they are to lazy to do research.
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I actually read and post here occasionally. I am posting under different name not to be recognizable. I wasn't saying that they are not paying or paying incorrectly. I specifically asked if someone sees adjustments on debris removals after the FACT after invoicing. We didn't see it before. Fewer with dumpsters, more with trailers. In the forum many mention that there are issues, wanted to know if there is a trend and if it's getting worse. Since there are not many CVs we see recently, I can't comment on those, when last year debris removals bids on those were cut a lot, but since we don't remove debris from them, we didn't care. Now with FHA that becomes concerning as this wasn't happening before.
I had two trailers loaded and I was told that there are 5 QY total. That is insane, not to mention that they wanted to cut 60 QY to 20 with the two dumpsters on site. I am wondering how others are handling this


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I actually read and post here occasionally. I am posting under different name not to be recognizable. I wasn't saying that they are not paying or paying incorrectly. I specifically asked if someone see adjustments on debris removals after the FACT after invoicing. We didn't see it before. In the last year there are issues with the debris. Fewer with dumpsters, more with trailers. In the forum many mention that there are issues, wanted to know if there is a trend and if it's getting worse. Since there are not many CVs we see recently, I can't comment on those, when last year debris removals bids on those were cut a lot, but since we don't remove debris from them, we didn't care. Now with FHA that becomes concerning since this wasn't happening before.
I had two trailers loaded and I was told that there are 5 QY total. That is insane, not to mention that they wanted to cut 60 QY to 20 with the two dumpsters on site. I am wondering how others are handling this

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If you don't like the crap they put you through dont work for them. Simple enough right?
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Fair enough, but I could think about it on my own. That wasn't issue before, but resurfaced recently. It's probably obvious that if I wanted to quit, I would give my notice. What I was looking for - for suggestions from others who recently had same issues. I can give many advises on my own and advising to quit, probably will not be the one, since it's old and I would definitely consider doing so once I can pick up someplace else. If I was looking for suggestion to quit or not, I would specifically ask that question up front.
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Fair enough, but I could think about it on my own. That wasn't issue before, but resurfaced recently. It's probably obvious that if I wanted to quit, I would give my notice. What I was looking for - for suggestions from others who recently had same issues. I can give many advises on my own and advising to quit, probably will not be the one, since it's old and I would definitely consider doing so once I can pick up someplace else. If I was looking for suggestion to quit or not, I would specifically ask that question up front.
I understand where you are going with that statement.But why be shady with a different name.You should know by know Safeguard is the worst to work for.You say you have other name and made posts but the safeguard bashing has never vanished.

If i did a job of 60 cy at 30 per yard just throwing numbers out and they cut my bid to 20 cubic yard at 30 per yard I would quit.If you don't quit you should quit after losing roughly $1200.00 a job you are just as bad a safeguard as you are letting them get away with it.
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I understand where you are going with that statement.But why be shady with a different name.You should know by know Safeguard is the worst to work for.You say you have other name and made posts but the safeguard bashing has never vanished.

If i did a job of 60 cy at 30 per yard just throwing numbers out and they cut my bid to 20 cubic yard at 30 per yard I would quit.If you don't quit you should quit after losing roughly $1200.00 a job you are just as bad a safeguard as you are letting them get away with it.
They paid for 60 QY eventually. But cut the last invoice.
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If you wanted to quit you would give your notice?
Your a contractor. If your finally tired of the beat down you just tell them so, or more politely, that your no longer accepting trashout orders from them.
I only see an increase of their kickbacks due to the increase in hacks doing their work. They have always had a percentage of orders that they decided to cut. That hasn't changed. Snakes are snakes, tigers are tigers, lambs are lambs.
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I agree that they had some cuts before, we personally didn't have any cuts on trash-outs until recently, but wonder if there is a wind because FAS had issues and now SG is more concerned about how many QY is billed to the clients. As we noticed when we have dumpsters standing and filled - no questions, nothing, issues only with trailers. The one where we had 60 QY - we had two dumpsters, thanks goodness sec one was different color. Now I am thinking, if we should we start marking dumpsters and trailer such as #1, #2????? Issue we recently had: debris was packed in the construction bags, they told me that they look same and I guess they didn't know how many trailers were there: one or two, they missed pick up truck on the pictures. I don't want to get dumpster on each and every trash-out. They also generally good, but this debris business gives headache. We heard that last year HUD was sending letters in large amounts recouping moneys for debris as not supported by pictures. Not sure if this is still an issue as many sales were on hold and we didn't see too many post-sales.
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My last SG trash out took 3 dumpsters. I took multiple photos with all 3 in each one, I took dumpster number photos too.

Along with 6 or 8 of the load on the truck.
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