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Im Alan Jaffa....who gets the broom..

Ok , so I'm not Alan but if I was this would be my list to go to the chopping block. It would be interesting to see what everyone's list looks like. So please chime in!

1. FAS. The way they degrade SG and how they handled the FNMA transition are just plain unprofessional. They deserve everything they have coming.

2. AMS. Need I say more? This as actually a tough call to make second as I'm sure they could be first by many peoples account. Someone I know was at the "industry day" in Detroit and I guess AMS was bashing SG bad. Saying they were way bigger of a company had more contracts, etc. More unprofessional practice.

3. Miken. Time these guys suffered like we do.

4. CVMS. Not even sure if they are still in business but one of our worst business relationships ever.

5. Berghorst. Once again, need I say more? Time to get a real job Heather!

6. US Best. Same story. Please do our work for free and we will fight to pay you.

7. Sentinel. I don't care what "ninjas" or whatever they were calling their recruiters your prices suck.

8. Superior. Please go give us blanket bids for total repair on houses in the middle of Detroit and Flint. Ya because those area get rehabbed. Even hazard claims arnt stupid.

OK that's our list here in MI. Its sad when we have worked for all these deadbeat companies. I would hate to add up all the revenue lost and years off my life from the stress these guys cause. What does the group think?? Did I miss some? I know there close to 20 "regionals" that call and email us weekly that I am sure could be on this list bit don't deserve the keystrokes.
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I vote for mcs, they are by far the worst I have dealt with. I didn't click at all with them.

2nd would be nvms, pay sucks and they make you jump through hoops
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Wasn't aware mcs did bac. I've heard bad stuff about nvms
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I hope sg gets rid of that stupid text message a photo to them crap and call center for securing bs, I quit working for them because I was always on hold for hrs.
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Ok , so I'm not Alan but if I was this would be my list to go to the chopping block. It would be interesting to see what everyone's list looks like. So please chime in!

1. FAS. The way they degrade SG and how they handled the FNMA transition are just plain unprofessional. They deserve everything they have coming.

2. AMS. Need I say more? This as actually a tough call to make second as I'm sure they could be first by many peoples account. Someone I know was at the "industry day" in Detroit and I guess was bashing SG bad. Saying they were way bigger of a company had more contracts, etc. More unprofessional practice.

3. Milken. Time these guys suffered like we do.

4. CVMS. Not even sure if they are still in business but one of our worst business relationships ever.

5. Berghorst. Once again, need I say more? Time to get a real job Heather!

6. US Best. Same story. Please do our work for free and we will fight to pay you.

7. Sentinel. I don't care what "ninjas" or whatever they were calling their recruiters your prices suck.

8. Superior. Please go give us blanket bids for total repair on houses in the middle of Detroit and Flint. Ya because those area get rehabbed. Even hazard claims arnt stupid.

OK that's our list here in MI. Its sad when we have worked for all these deadbeat companies. I would hate to add up all the revenue lost and years off my life from the stress these guys cause. What does the group think?? Did I miss some? I know there close to 20 "regionals" that call and email us weekly that I am sure could be on this list bit don't deserve the keystrokes.
Berghorst is on my top list. Only because I know the crap Doug and Heather do to their employees and contractors.

I give it ten min before Jenkins jumps in to defend his favorite company.
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Ya. They are bad. The told us last year we were to big of a company to make money for them. She said they wanted a family operation. I said it didn't matter if ghandi was dong it. There's no way to make money with them
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Wasn't aware mcs did bac. I've heard bad stuff about nvms
Yep they did last year, I quit working for them about 6 months ago.

I didn't get along with them at all, they where not a good fit.
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Only work we have done for berghorst is a $175 bid on an acreage. Paid in a couple weeks. They don't have much in Iowa I don't believe.
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I'm interested in seeing how this BACFS deal works itself out. We have done work for almost all of those companies on that list. I don't really have anything bad to say about any of them except for CVMS. What a joke. Anyways, good for Safeguard ... I'm a fan.
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Ok , so I'm not Alan but if I was this would be my list to go to the chopping block. It would be interesting to see what everyone's list looks like. So please chime in!

1. FAS. The way they degrade SG and how they handled the FNMA transition are just plain unprofessional. They deserve everything they have coming.

2. AMS. Need I say more? This as actually a tough call to make second as I'm sure they could be first by many peoples account. Someone I know was at the "industry day" in Detroit and I guess AMS was bashing SG bad. Saying they were way bigger of a company had more contracts, etc. More unprofessional practice.

3. Miken. Time these guys suffered like we do.

4. CVMS. Not even sure if they are still in business but one of our worst business relationships ever.

5. Berghorst. Once again, need I say more? Time to get a real job Heather!

6. US Best. Same story. Please do our work for free and we will fight to pay you.

7. Sentinel. I don't care what "ninjas" or whatever they were calling their recruiters your prices suck.

8. Superior. Please go give us blanket bids for total repair on houses in the middle of Detroit and Flint. Ya because those area get rehabbed. Even hazard claims arnt stupid.

OK that's our list here in MI. Its sad when we have worked for all these deadbeat companies. I would hate to add up all the revenue lost and years off my life from the stress these guys cause. What does the group think?? Did I miss some? I know there close to 20 "regionals" that call and email us weekly that I am sure could be on this list bit don't deserve the keystrokes.
I guess experience is reality. I have never heard FAS say a single bad word about SG. Not a single one. And I mean from the top down. They have been nothing but professional (AMS will bad mouth a damn dog so I agree with you there).

I am not sure you 100% understand the terms of the contract they signed bud. Details will probably trickle down, but rights to mortgage servicing by B of A (back of the house stuff), has been sold to other providers to the tune of 10.8 billion over the last year or so, so many of the "B of A" properties out there, they probably don't even have the servicing rights to. Its probably just a way of classifying. So it is truely a huge deal, but may not have the impact you expect.

I do not rejoice in SG making a move like this. I am only half capitalist, and the further diluting of the industry is not welcome by a company that in my experience strong arms anyone they can, is rude by design, by their own inspectors is admitted to find ways to take money from vendors to increase revenue, and pays rates I wouldn't in good conscience give to my subs.

I am glad your experience has been different. But beware if they do not feel they "need" you at any time. Allan Jaffa does not care about you.
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