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Has anyone taken on a regional alone

In a situation where invoices are being denied for one thing when i show them they pull some crap out. They decided after handing in a couple hundred lawns they are know charging 5 bucks for non time stamped which wasn't in the TOS i signed. They can go look at the properties i'm doing the work. I picked up 50+ more before this happened because a vendor was sending in fake pictures, i was told i would be paid initial services on these (i have the phone recording my phone auto says this call will be recorded. Im told to contact the state reps which are about as usefully a 3 year old that still craps there pants.

Instead of lien (which i can't in my state unless over $500) i was going to sue for the ones they cheated me out of and over 250 cuts they cut by $5 bucks and 50+ cleans they cut by 5 bucks. It honestly isn't the money as much as screwing me. I have given them the choice add the money back in and i will sign a new tos or i am suing for each property singly. Which means about 300 lawsuits plus court cost, am i being a jerk? Or am i doing what others would do. Tear it apart if you want i take criticism very well or is it time to hit these mf'ers i mean we are only talking 1500 bucks maybe a little more but its the point. The maj judges in Pa are not friendly to things like this

I don't know how to do a poll but your guys insight would be helpful sorry for spelling errors I'm tired working 17+ hr days and lied to day in and day out.

Whats kinda funny is Dorworth? Lawyers contacted me 2 weeks ago about said company we are know getting sent out before even initials but I'm sure they are charging the government for initials. Any help and sorry for book
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In a situation where invoices are being denied for one thing when i show them they pull some crap out. They decided after handing in a couple hundred lawns they are know charging 5 bucks for non time stamped which wasn't in the TOS i signed. They can go look at the properties i'm doing the work. I picked up 50+ more before this happened because a vendor was sending in fake pictures, i was told i would be paid initial services on these (i have the phone recording my phone auto says this call will be recorded. Im told to contact the state reps which are about as usefully a 3 year old that still craps there pants.

Instead of lien (which i can't in my state unless over $500) i was going to sue for the ones they cheated me out of and over 250 cuts they cut by $5 bucks and 50+ cleans they cut by 5 bucks. It honestly isn't the money as much as screwing me. I have given them the choice add the money back in and i will sign a new tos or i am suing for each property singly. Which means about 300 lawsuits plus court cost, am i being a jerk? Or am i doing what others would do. Tear it apart if you want i take criticism very well or is it time to hit these mf'ers i mean we are only talking 1500 bucks maybe a little more but its the point. The maj judges in Pa are not friendly to things like this

I don't know how to do a poll but your guys insight would be helpful sorry for spelling errors I'm tired working 17+ hr days and lied to day in and day out.

Whats kinda funny is Dorworth? Lawyers contacted me 2 weeks ago about said company we are know getting sent out before even initials but I'm sure they are charging the government for initials. Any help and sorry for book
I don't know about your state or your laws. I wouldn't do 300 lawsuits. I'd have my attorney go after the whole thing under a breach of contract lawsuit, or something like it, IF I WERE TO PROCEED DOWN THAT PATH.

What I'd most likely do is stop wasting my time on a deadbeat client and cut my losses. If finances left me no choice, I'd start jacking my bids, and bid every damn thing I could and tell them its over the allowable.

With all the chitty regionals out there, I honestly cant understand why anyone takes a chance trying to find a good one.......



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In a situation where invoices are being denied for one thing when i show them they pull some crap out. They decided after handing in a couple hundred lawns they are know charging 5 bucks for non time stamped which wasn't in the TOS i signed. They can go look at the properties i'm doing the work. I picked up 50+ more before this happened because a vendor was sending in fake pictures, i was told i would be paid initial services on these (i have the phone recording my phone auto says this call will be recorded. Im told to contact the state reps which are about as usefully a 3 year old that still craps there pants.

Instead of lien (which i can't in my state unless over $500) i was going to sue for the ones they cheated me out of and over 250 cuts they cut by $5 bucks and 50+ cleans they cut by 5 bucks. It honestly isn't the money as much as screwing me. I have given them the choice add the money back in and i will sign a new tos or i am suing for each property singly. Which means about 300 lawsuits plus court cost, am i being a jerk? Or am i doing what others would do. Tear it apart if you want i take criticism very well or is it time to hit these mf'ers i mean we are only talking 1500 bucks maybe a little more but its the point. The maj judges in Pa are not friendly to things like this

I don't know how to do a poll but your guys insight would be helpful sorry for spelling errors I'm tired working 17+ hr days and lied to day in and day out.

Whats kinda funny is Dorworth? Lawyers contacted me 2 weeks ago about said company we are know getting sent out before even initials but I'm sure they are charging the government for initials. Any help and sorry for book
That's how I did it. District Court Pa. grass cut not paid 35 bucks.
Sued for late charges, and punitive damages
Awarded default judgment with punitive damages and court costs.

35 dollar grass cut turned into 240 judgment waited 30 days.
Filed writ of execution on office at Virginia dr. Fort Washington Pa.
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First thing I would do is

send them a 10 day demand letter, stating that after the ten day period discounts will not be extended, and a 10% late fee will be applied. If you have a 20% discount this will be a 37% increase in the invoice.

List your unpaid invoices by Magisterial District Court with the court numbers and express your intent to seek a judgement in each individual court. Also let them know you will be naming their client in the actions.

When a company sees what the three different cost choices are, they usually just pay you.
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I would love to know how many charge backs were issued back in the days of sending actual hard copies of pictures. Would be too much work to go back and dig through boxes of photographs for both the contractor and the regional/national. Just curious.
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Cut your losses and move on. In the end you might get a little money but if you spent the same time and energy pursuing new business you would get 3 times as much money.

You have already earned the money once now you have to earn it again. It's a waste of energy. Go earn real money elsewhere.
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What is your time worth? With all the work that will be needed to sue them, is it financially beneficial going to court for $1500 and wasting a few days, or can you make more money by doing other real work? I would think that for $1500, you're better off not suing.

I would draft a letter stating that you have intentions on taking this to court, and suing them for breach of contract. Make sure you have the TOS that you signed, as well as copies of your invoices and their payment list, and include that in the package you send to them. I would also name THEIR client as a possible defendant, and make sure they get the same copy of information. See where that leads you.

In the end, if it was me, I would send the package, but drop the issue if it doesn't lead to a settlement. Just too much work going to court to fight this. That's my O.
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I would love to know how many charge backs were issued back in the days of sending actual hard copies of pictures. Would be too much work to go back and dig through boxes of photographs for both the contractor and the regional/national. Just curious.
NONE. Never heard of a chargeback till 2007/8 +/-.
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NONE. Never heard of a chargeback till 2007/8 +/-.
Makes ya wonder doesn't it??
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Makes ya wonder doesn't it??
It is interesting but you have to remember back then the industry wasn't filled with hacks trying to beat the system.
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