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How many of ya'll have been estimating construction work. Me.. I've been estimating for over 20 years in the construction trades everything from small clean-outs to the $125 million Deutsche Bank demo in NYC.

I'm getting very short tempered when National desk jockey's deny my bid saying...that is not within our "Standard Pricing" or "Are you sure... I don't see that in the photo's". I get to thinking...Am I losing my mind here.

When they shoot back their denial of my bid... an tell me where I should be... I find myself going over the particulars again...wasting time, and coming up with the same figures. Then I get hacked-off an email them back an request a price breakdown of their price...of course I never get it... an it's beginning to drive me mad.

Any words of wisdom from the learned ones.
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Give up is my best advise. I know your frustration and decided to move "on down the road". It doesn't matter what estimating software you use (Xactimate, Simsol, Craftsman Blue Book) since they will not hear anything that doesn't fit "their pricing parameters".

If you are "GOOD" at estimating than you can "write your own" ticket in the real world. I know guys that are begging for good estimators that can use any of the above named software programs.
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Give up is my best advise. I know your frustration and decided to move "on down the road". It doesn't matter what estimating software you use (Xactimate, Simsol, Craftsman Blue Book) since they will not hear anything that doesn't fit "their pricing parameters".

If you are "GOOD" at estimating than you can "write your own" ticket in the real world. I know guys that are begging for good estimators that can use any of the above named software programs.
In Enviro & demo I always' used my own created Excel spreadsheets an customize'em to the Spec's of the work. I've done the full-time estimating/project mgmt gig, Although it is a lot less stress-full, you do lose the independence of working for yourself... decisions...decisions...
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Yeah I can understand the independence thing BUT if I told you a career field that is always looking for good/great estimaters and you are independent to come/go as you please and charge a great pay rate would you be interested? LOL its out there. You are in a field that has a big need for good estimators.
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Most of my estimating experience is Septic systems and municipal sewer and water as well as dirt work. Biggest project i have bid was 120K. That said, I'm the take it or leave it type person. If they don't like my bid, i don't give a damn. I can go broke sitting at home. It just takes longer.......
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OH Jeez my buddy MtMtnMn.... We all know you love those sewers
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OH Jeez my buddy MtMtnMn.... We all know you love those sewers
Smells like money!!!! Actually i like designing residential septics. Interesting work and when people can flush they are VERY grateful.......
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Yep your right. Its just those darn rabbit tails
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I get a kick out of the "price is excessive please reduce". What is excessive to one if fine with another. Had one bid where I told them 4 or 5 times that I was not reducing the bid. Kept getting emails, "price is excessive, reduce".
I finally said NO I WILL NOT. I think they got the hint.
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I get a kick out of the "price is excessive please reduce". What is excessive to one if fine with another. Had one bid where I told them 4 or 5 times that I was not reducing the bid. Kept getting emails, "price is excessive, reduce".
I finally said NO I WILL NOT. I think they got the hint.



Fremont told me to cut it a penny.
After the third or fourth time they usually leave you alone.
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