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I just wanted to say hello as I just joined the forum but have been following this site so much the past year or so I feel like I already know some of you.

I was in this raquet a few years back for about 3-4 years and did well for myself. By some unknown force of nature, I got back into it a little over a year ago. A lot has changed, prices are dwindling and I am finding it near impossible for someone like myself to get back to the point of having at least a handful of crews in the field due to the lousy pay. Impossible to get in with the good nationals unless you can handle VOLUME and are well established so it's a catch 22. I was with a Regional for a while that has WF work which was great and payed well but that was short lived due to the infants in the office that had carte blanche of the company and acted like Jr. High teenagers on their first period. Other companies want to pay the allowable of $15 to trim shrubs on entire property? Really? Why can't I find a good Co. with WF work? I heard MSI is due to get some in the near future but they've been saying that for some time now and I've heard mixed things about them on here, pretty much like any other Co. One will say they are great, pay on time and the staff is friendly and easy to get along with. Another will say the complete opposite.

I'm still undecided whether this was a good decision. Someone posted on another thread about how glad they are that they left P&P and have been working for realtors, insurance adjusters/mitigation and the private sector. I'm just curious how well all of the above pay compared to doing P&P.

Some REAL feedback would be greatly appreciated unless it's "suck it up and find the right national to work for" which is welcomed also. PM me if it's felt necessary.


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I was in this raquet a few years back for about 3-4 years and did well for myself. By some unknown force of nature, I got back into it a little over a year ago.
So many of us are trying to figure a way OUT of this biz. You were able to do it!...and then you got back in.
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I just wanted to say hello as I just joined the forum but have been following this site so much the past year or so I feel like I already know some of you.

I was in this raquet a few years back for about 3-4 years and did well for myself. By some unknown force of nature, I got back into it a little over a year ago. A lot has changed, prices are dwindling and I am finding it near impossible for someone like myself to get back to the point of having at least a handful of crews in the field due to the lousy pay. Impossible to get in with the good nationals unless you can handle VOLUME and are well established so it's a catch 22. I was with a Regional for a while that has WF work which was great and payed well but that was short lived due to the infants in the office that had carte blanche of the company and acted like Jr. High teenagers on their first period. Other companies want to pay the allowable of $15 to trim shrubs on entire property? Really? Why can't I find a good Co. with WF work? I heard MSI is due to get some in the near future but they've been saying that for some time now and I've heard mixed things about them on here, pretty much like any other Co. One will say they are great, pay on time and the staff is friendly and easy to get along with. Another will say the complete opposite.

I'm still undecided whether this was a good decision. Someone posted on another thread about how glad they are that they left P&P and have been working for realtors, insurance adjusters/mitigation and the private sector. I'm just curious how well all of the above pay compared to doing P&P.

Some REAL feedback would be greatly appreciated unless it's "suck it up and find the right national to work for" which is welcomed also. PM me if it's felt necessary.

Where are you located...we do a fair amount of WF.

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And let me tell you something. If you go to local craiglist and look under jobs you will see tons of companies hiring for general labor. I actually have really hard time finding people for remodeling business which will tell you that market improved and and many builders are now building. You will make better money working for general contractor vs P&P industry.

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I just wanted to say hello as I just joined the forum but have been following this site so much the past year or so I feel like I already know some of you.

I was in this raquet a few years back for about 3-4 years and did well for myself. By some unknown force of nature, I got back into it a little over a year ago. A lot has changed, prices are dwindling and I am finding it near impossible for someone like myself to get back to the point of having at least a handful of crews in the field due to the lousy pay. Impossible to get in with the good nationals unless you can handle VOLUME and are well established so it's a catch 22. I was with a Regional for a while that has WF work which was great and payed well but that was short lived due to the infants in the office that had carte blanche of the company and acted like Jr. High teenagers on their first period. Other companies want to pay the allowable of $15 to trim shrubs on entire property? Really? Why can't I find a good Co. with WF work? I heard MSI is due to get some in the near future but they've been saying that for some time now and I've heard mixed things about them on here, pretty much like any other Co. One will say they are great, pay on time and the staff is friendly and easy to get along with. Another will say the complete opposite.

I'm still undecided whether this was a good decision. Someone posted on another thread about how glad they are that they left P&P and have been working for realtors, insurance adjusters/mitigation and the private sector. I'm just curious how well all of the above pay compared to doing P&P.

Some REAL feedback would be greatly appreciated unless it's "suck it up and find the right national to work for" which is welcomed also. PM me if it's felt necessary.

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