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Is BATF good as gold? Why or why not?

Some are saying in other groups BATF is good as gold, and others say or leave it alone. Why? Or why not? I would think it would be with certain clients.
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BATF much like any guarantee or proposal.

Is exactly as good as the guy (company) that gave it to you.
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I like BATF. But I also agree itís only as good as the company you are working for. For one regional I wonít touch them as a BATF just because I donít trust them to not cut me. So in that case I email a few pics and call from site and tell them my number. Sometimes they approve it, sometimes they donít. IF they do approve it I still donít touch it till I receive the email stating its approve and for how much.
With the other guy I work for (On these forums) I donít have a problem doing anything BATF. You just have to make sure youíre phots justify the CY you are billing for. It gives you a good opportunity to make some real money when you go to a property for something like a lock change or a wint. Itís a little more difficult to do during the summer time when you already have the trailer loaded down with mowers etc. But this time of year my mowers are put away and the trailer is already empty so itís a lot easier.
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I've done BATF for MCS for the past 2 years and they SUCK!!!! Anytime it's a leaf cleanup or a bush trimming it's always cut saying my photos don't justify or the estimator doesn't coincide with your pricing. Don't tell me to BATF if your not going to pay MY price. As far as leaves go, I have a leaf plow on the front of my mower and a leaf vac to load my trailer. So they get compressed from being pushed, and then get compressed again when they get shredded. So they are looking for me to work harder and longer to make more money, but the time involved isn't worth it.
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Why are you still doing BATF for MCS?
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With MCS it's called "as good as coal"....

They already took the gold
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Just like all of the Nationals, it works for some companies, for others it doesn't. My guys have gotten leaf clean ups down to an art and can get up between 10cy and 20cy in 2-3 hours or less. I take my before pictures, they start on leaves while I do the winterizing. The little bit of profit I make from the wint pretty much covers the cost of my labor. I help them finish the leaves, then we roll out. If I get cut, my labor is still covered and I only did a little extra labor so I'm good with it.

It's really all in getting a feel for what the company will approve and what they will cut or won't cut.

I called from site for approval on some work recently. We knew if we didn't do it we'd get sent back and didn't want that so went ahead and did it. Luckily we got the approval in as we were finishing up. Got lucky but I was prepared to eat the loss to keep from having to return.
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Successful BATF requires 4 ingredients.
If either part is missing your screwed.

Part 1) Must have an honest Client

Part 2) Must take good photos

Part 3) Must be good at explaining your bid or what was done.
(Details, Details and more details.)

Part 4) Must be willing to use and good at using a CE
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Successful BATF requires 4 ingredients.
If either part is missing your screwed.

Part 1) Must have an honest Client

Part 2) Must take good photos

Part 3) Must be good at explaining your bid or what was done.
(Details, Details and more details.)

Part 4) Must be willing to use and good at using a CE
Bingo! we have a winner
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BATF is a way to make you do the work and not be paid properly as if it was a real submitted bid. It's a risk that some are willing to take, not me, screwed to many times..you did the work already so they know you will take whatever they dish out..
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