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Sorry to budge in on this post guys, havent really understood how to talk to people on this site. My name is Brittany and my fiances name is Zack. Were a new business that we just started a month ago, we are currently working as a third party sub contractor, so the money from what ive been reading on here is not that great in comparison( 20 for recut, 30 for intial up to 45,000 sqft under 24in) yes thats right!!! 30 bucks. Were hoping to get some insight on where to go and what to do so we can get our own business up and running. All answers or please ask questions and help would be greatly appreciated! thank you!
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Sorry to budge in on this post guys, havent really understood how to talk to people on this site. My name is Brittany and my fiances name is Zack. Were a new business that we just started a month ago, we are currently working as a third party sub contractor, so the money from what ive been reading on here is not that great in comparison( 20 for recut, 30 for intial up to 45,000 sqft under 24in) yes thats right!!! 30 bucks. Were hoping to get some insight on where to go and what to do so we can get our own business up and running. All answers or please ask questions and help would be greatly appreciated! thank you!
Hi Brittany,

The best thing to do is introduce yourself under the introductions heading if you haven't already. Then spend some time reading past posts about the industry. Also, use the search feature to look for specific info.

People here will answer your questions, but be prepared for some of the more curmudgeonly members to be a bit abrasive with their responses. A thick skin will be your most valuable tool if you are going to survive in this industry.

Where are you located?
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Now you have your own thread in introductions. Please stop derailing other threads. Thanks, Brad



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Sorry to budge in on this post guys, havent really understood how to talk to people on this site. My name is Brittany and my fiances name is Zack. Were a new business that we just started a month ago, we are currently working as a third party sub contractor, so the money from what ive been reading on here is not that great in comparison( 20 for recut, 30 for intial up to 45,000 sqft under 24in) yes thats right!!! 30 bucks. Were hoping to get some insight on where to go and what to do so we can get our own business up and running. All answers or please ask questions and help would be greatly appreciated! thank you!
Welcome Brittany, from an old codger
First of all STOP!! $20 and $30 lawn cuts are what we veterans are trying to eliminate. Continue doing them and you will be bankrupt I don't care how many you are doing you will not turn a profit. You can run the numbers sideways, backwards, up and down, and round and round you will lose your arse. You my friend are exactly what these low ball regionals are looking for.
Second never ever ever back down do not be afraid to tell these cube monkeys no. They need you not the other way around please believe in yourself otherwise they will eat you alive.
This industry is not for the weak of mind and spirit believe me these companies count on you getting overwhelmed and not being able to stay on top of all the numbers that is how they make their money.
Get any preconceived notions of making a real living off of this industry alone out of your head, you need to diversify. Years ago you could make it off this but not anymore.
Read Read Read, there is more useful information from veterans on this site than the Congressional Library. Even us veterans have learned from here because once you think you have seen it all or know it all you realize its not the case. The Search feature on here is your best friend.
Believe me I am not trying to talk you out of this (although it would be best) that is not my intent. Educate yourself with the wisdom on this site and tread cautiously through this industry, keep your eyes open, and most importantly cover your arse there are a lot of wolves in sheep's clothing. They will take advantage of you any way they can trust no company you work for because as we have seen recently they may be gone tomorrow. Good Luck.
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Welcome Brittany, from an old codger
First of all STOP!! $20 and $30 lawn cuts are what we veterans are trying to eliminate. Continue doing them and you will be bankrupt I don't care how many you are doing you will not turn a profit. You can run the numbers sideways, backwards, up and down, and round and round you will lose your arse. You my friend are exactly what these low ball regionals are looking for.
Second never ever ever back down do not be afraid to tell these cube monkeys no. They need you not the other way around please believe in yourself otherwise they will eat you alive.
This industry is not for the weak of mind and spirit believe me these companies count on you getting overwhelmed and not being able to stay on top of all the numbers that is how they make their money.
Get any preconceived notions of making a real living off of this industry alone out of your head, you need to diversify. Years ago you could make it off this but not anymore.
Read Read Read, there is more useful information from veterans on this site than the Congressional Library. Even us veterans have learned from here because once you think you have seen it all or know it all you realize its not the case. The Search feature on here is your best friend.
Believe me I am not trying to talk you out of this (although it would be best) that is not my intent. Educate yourself with the wisdom on this site and tread cautiously through this industry, keep your eyes open, and most importantly cover your arse there are a lot of wolves in sheep's clothing. They will take advantage of you any way they can trust no company you work for because as we have seen recently they may be gone tomorrow. Good Luck.
Thank you cover2! The biggest down fall is that we are working for a family company. We have been loyal for over a year now and its been this way ever since we started. My fiances family is the one who owns the company here in florida. The company covers all of central fl and they would have us go coast to coast for refreshes(15$ ech) and recuts(20$ each). we knew that it was slowly putting us into the negative, so we refused to go untill a fuel charge was added to the invoice. they agreed but it was a BIG DEAL because they cant charge SG fuel cost? but we know theyre making the profit! over a period of time and doing some research we have been slowly learning the business so that one day we can venture out on our own. Now we have the business name, license, 3 new trailers and a industrial( not commercial) mower along with a smaller zt mower(32'' cut) and other standard p&p equipment. Were ready to rock an roll. we put out apps to 7 different companies like cyprexx, SG, fivebrothers etc. a month ago and have yet to hear anything back. Which leaves us stuck doing this stuff for cheap! today my fiance cut a lawn that was 145x128. grass was at 3 ft all around. THICK! and we have measurements and photos of weeds at 7ft 2in high. and trimmed 3 shrubs. one at 10ft high for......Not kidding.....85 dollars!!!!!! Then they wanted him to tarp a flat roof and stick Styrofoam cubes from a craft store and put them underneath to create a "pitch", and tar patch the edges for 50 dollars. we refused for the liability and embarrassment of the situation. So we really could use the help from the veterans on here. we really do( kind of odd i guess) enjoy this type of work, and love to know that we are turning properties around for, maybe, a better community. But of coarse you lose the incentive to want to put your hard work and time into things when it will not be appreciated or compensated.
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You have to be persistent to get any work form the nationals. I have had people agree to give me a job if I would quit calling them every day to ask how busy they were and if they needed any help.
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You can download pics thru stored sites like photobucket, for example.

I'm trying to get my head around this one- Your saying that this is your family doing this to you?
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I have an Uncle that moved down to Florida years ago, way down south.
He was a former insurance salesman and a handyman. He started a landscaping business with his two sons and turned it into a booming business. One son started a roofing company that also is making stupid money. He called me a while back when we were in the midst of doing huge numbers with most of the nationals and wanted to get into the game. I gave him all the info and contacts he needed and told him he would be making a huge mistake. He is a smart man with a good business sense. He spent two weeks doing very intense research and meeting with some of the execs of these companies in person. He is now retired, taking a check from his business every two weeks while his family runs it. No, he didn't sign with a single company.
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