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Hello all. I am new to the property preservation business here in Houston. I am a full time firefighter and I thought that this would be a great way to supplement my income. I just got picked up by Edgemark Solutions and I have been slammed with work orders to take care of by myself. A lot of hard hours for what seems a little payout. Is there something that I am missing about how to make more money in the business?
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While I was in RI the money from Regionals was flying in. But now that I'm down here in SC, regional pay is just barely letting me break even, while at the same time making me responsible for all the things I take on Regionals for (bidding, labeling, etc.) I have now moved up to working for a National where the money seems like it's going to be better. Maybe you should look into the same. Same work, 2x-3x the pay.
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would you mind posting your price sheet? or sending it to me in a PM? I'll let you know how far off of national it is.
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Hello all. I am new to the property preservation business here in Houston. I am a full time firefighter and I thought that this would be a great way to supplement my income. I just got picked up by Edgemark Solutions and I have been slammed with work orders to take care of by myself. A lot of hard hours for what seems a little payout. Is there something that I am missing about how to make more money in the business?
You can make a great living doing this. So many good companies to choose from.
Cyprex they even help you with workers comp ins.

BLM they do package deals and most of there houses hardly have any debris and are in better shape then most. depends how you look at it.

Safe guard so many allowable's homes with cut out wiring you can cap all of them. You even get to install dehumidifiers when the power is off or the electric is cut out.

MSI you get to paint over moldy walls with no questions asked. Check this out a lock box order you get 15 bucks how easy is that.

Wellington the owner was on here and he will be buying all the tools, supplies and the trucks and pay by the hour. That was a while ago so it should start any day.

Plenty of companies pushing the 20 buck grass cuts. You can make it up with the volume and good route planning.

Its just so exciting all the jobs are paying way less as everything else is going up like gas, labor, and supplies. But the smart ones know how to make it work.
These companies do care they even do the criminal checks just incase you run into another contractor so you will be safe They care. On your dime of course.

Rumor has it the better companies are thinking about pensions for the contractors.
The industry hit rock bottom just last week so it can only get better. Look at the bright side.

Most are members of NAMFS. This is a non profit organization and they do a great job making sure contractors get paid. And if one of there members are doing something fishy they speak up and fire the company ripping off contractors. So we have some protection. The contractors are so lucky to have a organization like them to watch over.

The sky is the limit

As for the negatives
I'm at a loss for words. With all of the above I am just so grateful and lucky wait honored to be a part of it all.
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Hello all. I am new to the property preservation business here in Houston. I am a full time firefighter and I thought that this would be a great way to supplement my income. I just got picked up by Edgemark Solutions and I have been slammed with work orders to take care of by myself. A lot of hard hours for what seems a little payout. Is there something that I am missing about how to make more money in the business?
For starters, it pains me just a bit to see someone who would risk their life to save mine scraping for pennies in this shark and minnow show. I don't know much but from what you've told us it seems pretty simple. You are the cheapest and most willing labor in the Houston area. You are giving it away. You have to stop taking what they're giving and start negotiating a bit. Put a pencil to it and figure what you need or don't do it. With another full time job you're in a great position to do this. Also go after any private work you can find. Don't limit yourself to one company feeding you work. You won't find anything better without looking for it.

If I may quote GTX63...
If you don't want to be treated like a dog, stop eating the dog food.

Good luck, keep us posted.
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Hello all. I am new to the property preservation business here in Houston. I am a full time firefighter and I thought that this would be a great way to supplement my income. I just got picked up by Edgemark Solutions and I have been slammed with work orders to take care of by myself. A lot of hard hours for what seems a little payout. Is there something that I am missing about how to make more money in the business?
I agree with Safeguard Dropout's comment & since I flunked out of firefighting after only 6 years, I have nothing but respect for you!
I have never worked for Edgemark, but I'm guessing they are skimming all of the profit from the WO's before they assign them to you - A standard practice for the vast majority of the paper shuffling companies out there. The simplest solution is this: Find the companies that are willing to negotiate pricing to your level and ignore all the rest. They're out there, it's your job to find them.
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Edgemark pays $20 a 5000 sq ft mow up to 36 inches in height. #30 for up to an acre at 36" in height, to which I cry BS!!! They are pimping you, dear sir, and you need to look around for a better company to work with. It is ethically deficit and professionally reprehensible to try and bilk us small vendors the way they do, but they continue because folks fall for it. I am in agreement with all before me, especially Safeguard Dropout...if you don't want to be treated like a dog, stop eating the dog food. (great quote Safeguard D.O., btw!)
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Edgemark pays $20 a 5000 sq ft mow up to 36 inches in height. #30 for up to an acre at 36" in height, to which I cry BS!!! They are pimping you, dear sir, and you need to look around for a better company to work with. It is ethically deficit and professionally reprehensible to try and bilk us small vendors the way they do, but they continue because folks fall for it. I am in agreement with all before me, especially Safeguard Dropout...if you don't want to be treated like a dog, stop eating the dog food. (great quote Safeguard D.O., btw!)
Those prices for the grasscuts are insane, I would never do that.

I do work for several regional vendors currently, planning on moving up to nationals once I feel comfortable with the industry. I look at it a couple of ways.

1. Being new in the industry you can gain experience through the regionals, but you aren't going to make the big bucks with them.

2. The grass cuts I get you have to take the good with the bad. Meaning, I might have a couple of 30.00 cuts for 1000-5000 sqft. and they'll be on the smaller side, but then I'll have one that's actually closer to the larger side.

3. The smaller jobs with just the trip fees with photos suck, but I use it as an opportunity to find problems to bid to fix, or trashouts etc. I don't work with any companies I can't bid jobs for.

4. You have to know what's worth it for you and what you have to make. I think if you're planning on moving to this is a full time money maker then you might have to bite the bullet and take the crappy jobs in order to gain experience and/or the opportunity to bid. If you're just doing it to supplement, I think you'd be better off working at Wal Mart or something like that. Not too mention, this industry, as I'm finding out, is 24/7, 365.

My goal, as I posted in a separate forum, is to gain experience through regionals, and then move to nationals as soon as possible. I've jumped into things way too fast previously and it's blown up in my face, so I'm trying to do this the right way.
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