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We are in Washington State and we just started working with NVMS and for the amount of money they pay isn't worth the amount of work I put in. With an average of 85-112 photos per job, I had to use their crappy system, and had to redo some of the 2 hour work I did. Now, I know that we can decline the work, ask for more money since the inspection houses are like an hour and a half from home, pay the toll over the bridge, food and gas, etc.
So, if some of you could let me know of companies that are out there and do work in the Pacific Northwest, that would be great.
We haven't had to do any lawn maintenance, as of yet, but we would be glad to do that, as well as what everyone else does. I don't think that there are that many PP companies here in Washington State.
What are the pitfalls working as a sub contractor? I would guess that pay is an issue, and communication is vital.
I'd appreciate any information anyone has and would care to share.
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You should be proud to speak freely. If you think these nationals are going to have any work by the end of the year then you're in for a real awakening. The direct clients are firing all of the nationals and have been for the past year. All of the writing has been on the walls well before the business became booming 2008. Direct clients will send business to a central system that is always on and has a constant network of resources and clients trading globally. That system is going to have to be compliant and will have to allow all parties to be protected.

24/7/365 audit access will need to be given in the system to allow for operations to be audited by regulatory agencies that seek access to audit. The system will need to be connected with a mobile application, but not just any mobile app. An always learning mobile application which simplifies itself based on users feedback in the system. Everyone has been wondering who The Grean Team, Inc. really is and what our purpose is. All the nationals are now sitting on the sidelines scared and trying to see if they can sue us for anything like Taxi Companies with Uber. The industry is melting and Mr. D. Paul Williams has been saying it has been for quite some time now.

Positive change is coming, and you should be free to speak what feedback you believe is needed. We here at The Grean Team, Inc. believe in unity, so we're having our first ever Public Supervisory Board Meeting open to literally anyone. It's going to be the first time many people in the meeting will have seen the development of the Grean Team Work Market, but we are looking to have more involvement from all industries and the general public. There are a limited 250 seats available, and seating is first come first serve.

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It should be interesting to note that I found this with some research...If I am wrong, I am the first to admit it, but I have a feeling that you all have seen this before:
http://foreclosurepedia.org/half-bak...e-like-sharks/....
Explains to ME who these guys are....I may have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.
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You should be proud to speak freely. If you think these nationals are going to have any work by the end of the year then you're in for a real awakening. The direct clients are firing all of the nationals and have been for the past year. All of the writing has been on the walls well before the business became booming 2008. Direct clients will send business to a central system that is always on and has a constant network of resources and clients trading globally. That system is going to have to be compliant and will have to allow all parties to be protected.

24/7/365 audit access will need to be given in the system to allow for operations to be audited by regulatory agencies that seek access to audit. The system will need to be connected with a mobile application, but not just any mobile app. An always learning mobile application which simplifies itself based on users feedback in the system. Everyone has been wondering who The Grean Team, Inc. really is and what our purpose is. All the nationals are now sitting on the sidelines scared and trying to see if they can sue us for anything like Taxi Companies with Uber. The industry is melting and Mr. D. Paul Williams has been saying it has been for quite some time now.

Positive change is coming, and you should be free to speak what feedback you believe is needed. We here at The Grean Team, Inc. believe in unity, so we're having our first ever Public Supervisory Board Meeting open to literally anyone. It's going to be the first time many people in the meeting will have seen the development of the Grean Team Work Market, but we are looking to have more involvement from all industries and the general public. There are a limited 250 seats available, and seating is first come first serve.

Meeting time: July 14, 2014 @ 3:00 PM EST.
Meeting place: https://join.me/thegreanteam
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The term that comes to mind is "TO BIG TO FAIL" The banks hold all the cards, The work goes where the banks says it goes, Nationals are given the work and because its a necessary evil, Not a choice.

The league of banks in collaboration with National Service Company's that serve the bank in more ways than just P&P or REO with never change.

SG has employees inside the BOA, LPS has employees seating in Chase Manhattan as i type this, as do all the nationals do. FACT

The relationship between Banks and Nationals has only grown stronger since the bail out of the to big to fails. The Main reason for this is called HARD ASSETS unlike bonds or stocks they my must maintain this asset.

Banks give money to Congress and intern tell congress how to right the law that benefits them best, this will never change, the sheeple have spoken.

FACT, im very close to a national VIP and a EO insurance carrier and they are gearing up for another foreclose fiasco coming back again here in the near term.

FACT, Nationals are pulling away from regionals, and they are falling by the wayside. a undeniable truth. RFP and local state wide company's are for more beneficial to nationals than Regionals.

I do give you credit for for your efford to push your company and coming to these boards and Ive been to web site, but i must say your dream of a national clearing house of work orders in the P&P industry seem to be lacking one vital component !!!

Recruiters coming to these boards and using their real name is a given, but field reps coming here and using their real name is the quickest way im aware of losing work and not getting hired at all. Company's don't need the exposure they get from these boards what so ever. and their are a few here that have been already called out from company's lurking here all ready.

You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink.The sheeple have spoken, hell their are some here that have had to change the names.

These boards give anonymity for a reason.

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It should be interesting to note that I found this with some research...If I am wrong, I am the first to admit it, but I have a feeling that you all have seen this before:
http://foreclosurepedia.org/half-bak...e-like-sharks/....
Explains to ME who these guys are....I may have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.
1-hour interview with Mr. D. Paul Williams:
His comment on the video as his About is:

Published on Mar 18, 2014
"A great Interview with Fadie Areny, Principal at the Grean Team. This is a Company Contractors are going to want to look at going forward!"

Then after the 1-hour interview I wrote an article on CubicYard.us http://cubicyard.us/columnists/fadie...y-areny/19290/ and then Mr. Williams wrote another lovely article about me specifically which is here: http://foreclosurepedia.org/category/fadie-hany-areny/ Irregardless of what you want to say about me or bring up about my "party life", before you judge you should really listen to all sides and then decide. Join us for our first ever public meeting of the minds. Only 250 seats available, but don't worry we've only invited preservationtalk.com, foreclosurepedia.org, cubicyard.us, and about 20 Board candidates.

Meeting Place: https://join.me/thegreanteam
Meeting Time: July 14, 2014 at 3:00 PM Eastern Time.
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The term that comes to mind is "TO BIG TO FAIL" The banks hold all the cards, The work goes where the banks says it goes, Nationals are given the work and because its a necessary evil, Not a choice.

The league of banks in collaboration with National Service Company's that serve the bank in more ways than just P&P or REO with never change.

SG has employees inside the BOA, LPS has employees seating in Chase Manhattan as i type this, as do all the nationals do. FACT

The relationship between Banks and Nationals has only grown stronger since the bail out of the to big to fails. The Main reason for this is called HARD ASSETS unlike bonds or stocks they my must maintain this asset.

Banks give money to Congress and intern tell congress how to right the law that benefits them best, this will never change, the sheeple have spoken.

FACT, im very close to a national VIP and a EO insurance carrier and they are gearing up for another foreclose fiasco coming back again here in the near term.

FACT, Nationals are pulling away from regionals, and they are falling by the wayside. a undeniable truth. RFP and local state wide company's are for more beneficial to nationals than Regionals.

I do give you credit for for your efford to push your company and coming to these boards and Ive been to web site, but i must say your dream of a national clearing house of work orders in the P&P industry seem to be lacking one vital component !!!

Recruiters coming to these boards and using their real name is a given, but field reps coming here and using their real name is the quickest way im aware of losing work and not getting hired at all. Company's don't need the exposure they get from these boards what so ever. and their are a few here that have been already called out from company's lurking here all ready.

You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink.The sheeple have spoken, hell their are some here that have had to change the names.

These boards give anonymity for a reason.

Zuse

Zuse, I see your points, I really do. But one thing you underestimate is who else is in those rooms that you speak of. You also need to look at the flow of volume and how it's moving around so much quicker in the last year than it'd been moving years prior. There is movement, and with movement makes for a real opportunity to swing the market towards a positive more meaningful and beneficial marketplace.

Regardless of what your thoughts, an auction-style open marketplace makes life so much easier for you to increase your business --- even if it's in a way different industry. There are resources in the network completing projects for a multitude of retailers and major companies. When you join The Grean Team, you simply become a part of a much larger network for the completion of work between enterprises and the resources that perform the work.

Also, if we want to start talking about foreclosures and the banking crisis let's discuss what actual foreclosure crisis is about to occur between now and the next two years. It's a commercial crisis, which took a lot longer to happen so it will now trigger a domino effect on the residential markets. However, some of the problem causing nationals are being sniped out by the banks. It's part of their circle of life. It just happens.

When a company or entity in the network begins to fail the network and then in turn cause risk, the main corporation then moves to liquidate the remains of what can be salvaged and then moves to find an alternative vehicle to attach itself to and create a flowing stream of revenue.

Banks are businesses, and just when you have a crew that has been slacking and causing you additional risk --- you cut them off and find replacements. In a world of technology, it's now much easier for these Global 2000 Companies, Fortune 500 Companies, and U.S. Government Agencies to find a solution to a few decade long problems that have been repeating its destructive patterns.

We know global companies like General Motors, Wells Fargo, and other great organizations are uninterested in managing the operations of directing work. They will always want a third-party to handle that. What The Grean Team is saying is that we invite all Nationals to utilize the system, and we'll even give them 60 days free to provide feedback to our design and development team. If you see the changes regulation will bring, you see more employees to then increase profits. Nationals who especially have been using multiple platforms will have the ability within the Grean Team Work Market to build their reports in the central global marketplace.

Many Nationals are truly changing their operations, but their technology is so far behind. Tomorrow will be a demo of the system. It will be 10-15 minutes, I do have to keep it to 30 minutes with Q&A at the end of the 30 for all talk.

We have partnered with a few financial institutions who have shown a heavy interest in moving their compliance towards that of what The Grean Team and Work Market offer. However, The Grean Team & Work Market have no interest in accepting any service agreements. We strive to maintain our companies as technology companies. Nationals will be able to automatically utilize a growing resource network. With more than 43,055 resources, Nationals go from a small outfit to now having a competitive edge to grow into other industries. With a marketplace now growing internationally, Nationals have the ability to now be able to expand operations overseas.

If the banks are truly reading this, and so are the nationals --- what I just in fact announced on a public industry forum is that our team is prepared to get them to be even bigger... but their cost for expansion requires regulation. The industry needs clients to also pay their invoices on time, the industry needs a real-time access to audit information by the nationals, and the industry needs to push towards companies that have more employees. All this is easily done today, with very little design or development adjustments for Nationals.

You heard it first on preservationtalk.com, I am inviting the Nationals to prove that their business model will last in an open marketplace. I am also inviting all U.S. government agencies to audit our system as it now stands with 24/7/365 login account access to cooperate with newly requested industry regulations. I also invite the companies of the world to demo our system and customize it to fit their operations. Lastly, I invite everyone of you to join as Vendors and see the world of clients you will see through it.

WARNING: Nationals beware, we have 43,055 of some of the best resources in the businesses they focus in within our network, and if you try to send a $5 inspection the comic responses you will receive could make a funny YouTube series, and probably will. Allow us to strategically partner with you as a real-time provider of analytical technology that suggests the pricing based on real market to turn your profits through the roof.

P.S. - We did a test market analysis with over 10 nationals and their work orders in a resource pool of 40,000 resources back earlier in the year before we fired them as Vendors and invited them to be Strategic Alliance Partners. Many of their work orders at pricing such as an $8 or $15 inspection received user responses such as "did you forget a zero" or "you won't get me to get out of bed for $8" from resources in the system who said no to the pricing of the work being requested.

Our analysis concluded that there were areas in P&P where certain Nationals were able to reduce their current pricing to increase the pricing in areas that generate the most risk. Once the flow of profit is directed to weaker areas in operations, the Nationals who make the change now will be able to get past a perfect gust of regulations.

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It should be interesting to note that I found this with some research...If I am wrong, I am the first to admit it, but I have a feeling that you all have seen this before:
http://foreclosurepedia.org/half-bak...e-like-sharks/....
Explains to ME who these guys are....I may have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.
I think for a growing number of contractors, they are tired of getting pitched and rolled over and over again. Spinning you by definition, will make you dizzy.
A little common sense and gut instinct can go a long way.

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I personally cannot envision a system where the nationals, any of them, will be willing to pay the amount necessary for me to be able to go to a full employee only model. It is simply not possible to cut enough lawns in a day at $32 per cut for me to be able to pay for a two person crew, a truck, a trailer, mowers, edgers, string trimmers, blowers, gas, oil, auto insurance, GL insurance, WC insurance, rent, electricity, water, rental insurance, support personnel to process pictures and invoice, maintenance and the myriad other expenses that are associated with running a property preservation business.

That is why most companies are Mom and Pop outfits with a sub or two help out when the workload increases.

The nationals, and the banks, simply do not care enough about the properties they are contracted to maintain to do this. For example, for hourly work (i.e. evictions) we get $20 per hour from our customer and they think this is great money.

It is not enough for me to be able to pay an employee a living wage and make anything remotely resembling a profit. I pass the $20 per hour straight to the guys who do the work so they will show up and do the work.

When I tell the nationals that I always got at least $35 per hour per man in commercial construction they say they can't believe it.

The problem here is that the nationals have decided how much money you need to make and they are not going to pay one dime more.

And the banks could not possibly care less about any of this as long as they have the layers they need between them and the property so they can act shocked and surprised when something goes wrong.
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I think for a growing number of contractors, they are tired of getting pitched and rolled over and over again. Spinning you by definition, will make you dizzy.
A little common sense and gut instinct can go a long way.
Definitely would have to agree, but you should really see for yourself what the system is all about. Just watch a quick video of the User Interface here:

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I personally cannot envision a system where the nationals, any of them, will be willing to pay the amount necessary for me to be able to go to a full employee only model. It is simply not possible to cut enough lawns in a day at $32 per cut for me to be able to pay for a two person crew, a truck, a trailer, mowers, edgers, string trimmers, blowers, gas, oil, auto insurance, GL insurance, WC insurance, rent, electricity, water, rental insurance, support personnel to process pictures and invoice, maintenance and the myriad other expenses that are associated with running a property preservation business.

That is why most companies are Mom and Pop outfits with a sub or two help out when the workload increases.

The nationals, and the banks, simply do not care enough about the properties they are contracted to maintain to do this. For example, for hourly work (i.e. evictions) we get $20 per hour from our customer and they think this is great money.

It is not enough for me to be able to pay an employee a living wage and make anything remotely resembling a profit. I pass the $20 per hour straight to the guys who do the work so they will show up and do the work.

When I tell the nationals that I always got at least $35 per hour per man in commercial construction they say they can't believe it.

The problem here is that the nationals have decided how much money you need to make and they are not going to pay one dime more.

And the banks could not possibly care less about any of this as long as they have the layers they need between them and the property so they can act shocked and surprised when something goes wrong.
LOL, honestly your last paragraph is so true it's funny. The way I look at it is simple: the Property Preservation Contractor is a jack of all trades and so the skill sets that they possess are more than your average handyman. If national companies that you speak of don't start using the system, it matters none. As a Property Preservation Contractor you should sign up in the marketplace and at least begin your reputation to start promoting your business to enterprises.

Office Depot pin pad replacements, Wal-Mart retail merchandise installations, Walgreen specialty trade build outs, and even Lockheed Martin supplier jobs are on the marketplace. As soon as you join The Grean Team you join network to do work for more than a 1,000 clients from a multitude of industries.

That is what I have been preaching here... we are more than just The Grean Team. It's 43,000 resources, over 1,000 clients, and is currently in more than 35 countries.
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First of all, your choice of music tells me VOLUMES. Second, the music is annoying and I shut it off after 25 seconds. Your robotic voice gives me the impression that it is how you do business.
What more do you want to show me when I see your presentation and that alone is more than enough evidence that I don't want to sign up. Fadie, seriously? Build trust FIRST and FOREMOST. You promise the moon, and I'm thinking all I'm going to get is the dirt here on earth. So....WHY should I sign up with you, when I am getting a BOATLOAD of leads from another vendor daily..I am getting more work than I can handle at the moment, and I am looking to hire two more people.
I saw your site....not sure what to make of it, being tech savvy(owned my own computer repair business and worked for Bill Gates' organization), your site leaves a lot to be desired. I am not being rude, just pointing out what I see. You talk a big game, bottom line, WHY, what are the benefits with paying you my hard earned money to get more work. Zuse, anyone else want to chime in here? THANKS, guys!
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