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ok so this might be a stupid question or comment but i have only been doing this work for 3 years now and found many issues i feel might not be isolated.
i constantly am going back to houses for more pics, the pprice list is constantly shrinking or now some companies say oh we dont hve price lists anymore. also the trend to pay to play with these companies and them having a unified field service contractor list is counter productive.
so to the point.. anyone ever think about making a property preservation association? a group of self regulated pp vendors across the us or by state that sets the prices and self regulates the honest hard working contractors?
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It was tried. I can speak from first hand experience. I can also tell you it didn't work...



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in my opinion it didnt work because most contractors are not going to stick together, letting companies keep lowballing prices till you go broke. until their is standards in this industry it will only get worse by the day
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in my opinion it didnt work because most contractors are not going to stick together, letting companies keep lowballing prices till you go broke. until their is standards in this industry it will only get worse by the day
It didn't work because too many contractors kept asking "what's in it for me". There wasn't enough willing to ask "what can I do to help out everyone". I believe Kennedy had a famous quote that was extremely relevant to the situation.

There are standards in this industry. FNMA, Freddie, VA, HUD, etc all have price sheets. Those are whittled down to the point where the contractor doing the work makes less than all the paper pushers above him/her in the food chain. In addition, that contractor takes on all the liability. Its a screwed up system......



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Not to mention that Craigslist makes it way to easy for hacks with a home owner mower, weed eater and a hammer to claim they are a contractor.


How many weekender "lawn companies" got sucked into P&P a little at a time thanks to their CL ad looking for a few yards to mow for some beer money?

Professionals are people who can do their job when they don't feel like it.
Amateurs are people that can't do their job even when they do feel like it.
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ok so this might be a stupid question or comment but i have only been doing this work for 3 years now and found many issues i feel might not be isolated.
i constantly am going back to houses for more pics, the pprice list is constantly shrinking or now some companies say oh we dont hve price lists anymore. also the trend to pay to play with these companies and them having a unified field service contractor list is counter productive.
so to the point.. anyone ever think about making a property preservation association? a group of self regulated pp vendors across the us or by state that sets the prices and self regulates the honest hard working contractors?
In order to do this you have to organize a largely un-organized, broke, busy, and competitive group of people. If vendors "organized" and create their own "set pricing", they would lose their contracts, and since they are mostly all broke, no one can make this sacrifice. Since they are all busy, they probably wouldn't ever hear about actually organizing to begin with.

Lastly the industry is so competitive that it would be to your competitors advantage that you sacrifice your service area to create this type of association. What then also would be the point of organizing if you lost the service area you cover?

Employees can unionize because they are in structured systems of employment competing against "the boss". Independent Contractors cannot organize themselves as effectively because vendors are all "competing" against each other.
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Aaron, you absolutely right about the structure and nature of the biz. Against my better judgement, I went to a "let's get organized" meeting in my area about 5 years ago. Turned into nothing more than a "tell me what you're making so I can undercut you tomorrow" meeting. Guys were telling lies all night long. The beer was good but otherwise a waste of time.
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