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Cool Finding Water valves under snow?

Hey so im working here in idaho and theres about 4-6inches in some yards of snow and ice and i cannot locate the boxes that the main water valves are in to shut off and turn on the water??? Its driving me crazy because i have 2 dewints and a winterize ive been to twice and cannot find these damn things!! and have been shoveling snow for hours.

How do you guys locate these under snow i was thinking getting a metal rod and just walk around tapping for the plastic or concrete lids

Im just worried The company im subbing for will get upset on me not finding these valves


I know there usually in the front yard and near the sidewalk.Should i just suck it up and keep shoveling until i find them...These yards are also very big which pisses me off, I feel like i should be getting paid for a snow removal as well lol but all i can do is wish
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Hire a plumber.
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O yeah hire a plumber on my $70 pay for a wint. Lol now to find a plumber who works for less then I do....hmmm craigslist? Haha
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I don't touch stop boxes. I don't want to be liable for damaging one. I haven't turned one on or off for a bank, we will call local co and ask them to. 95% of the properties I deal with, water is already off at curb. Call your local city water company and ask their opinion on what you should do, if you should touch it at all.

I went to a home for a lawn cut that had a line busted between wall and meter in a rural town. Judging by sign-in sheets, mold growth, etc, it had probably been spraying water for a year. No one ever answered water dept number for city, left several voicemails. Let bank know, to my knowledge it was never handled, but must have switched management to another company.
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Yes, touching the city meters should be a no no. You should have something in your invoices/contracts stating you are not allowed by local ordinance to access/handle the meter. Winterizations for the Nats and Regionals should be shutting off the interior valves only. Your putting yourself in a lot of liability with the lender as well as the local municipality by wrenching on them. If it is a dewint, they/the broker/etc should be contacting the township to come out and crank them back open. Yes, the companies will lead you to believe it is all on you, but its somewhat akin to them trying to convince you that you must also backfeed the electrical on an HPIR.
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Yes, touching the city meters should be a no no. You should have something in your invoices/contracts stating you are not allowed by local ordinance to access/handle the meter. Winterizations for the Nats and Regionals should be shutting off the interior valves only. Your putting yourself in a lot of liability with the lender as well as the local municipality by wrenching on them. If it is a dewint, they/the broker/etc should be contacting the township to come out and crank them back open. Yes, the companies will lead you to believe it is all on you, but its somewhat akin to them trying to convince you that you must also backfeed the electrical on an HPIR.

Some of the cities around here will not touch the curb stops themselves. Kind of a pain but if you have the right touch there isn't much rick of breaking them. The benefit to these cities is that they generally are very easy to work with when you get the approval to replace a curbstop, had one last summer that even showed me a wholesaler where I could buy them for like 1/2 of what the other cities charged for the parts.
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I won't touch a curb stop.


Far too many of them are tough to turn, put a cheater bar on it and it goes "easily"........ as in easily broken.
Nope, aint touching them.

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Yeah I reported back to the company and now they mention having the city turn the water on. The first dewint I ever did was turned off at the curb. I know you can buy the right tool at Lowe's its a long t bar looking thing that's meant for these valves.

I'm not going to mess with them from now on. There's a YouTube video I noticed in it the guy says and shows that you are supposed to turn of the water at the street first ?? So I was assuming this was my responsibility to when doing a wint/dewint
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Call your local water department and ask them if you are allowed to turn the curb stops off.

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Amateurs are people that can't do their job even when they do feel like it.
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Most of the water meters we deal with have anti-tampering devices on them.
We usually turn off the valve by the meter and secure it with zip ties.
99% of the water companies will not even get involved unless they have a letter from the bank. We zip tie and notify the bank has to contact them...
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