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Ahh crap, its over!

While wints. can be time consuming on some homes overall they have proved to be very profitable. Of course in AZ most properties that need winterized are dry so that makes it alot better as I hate the amount of time wet systems seem to take.

Maybe that's because I have not had a lot of experience in them though.

What do you guys think the most profitable wints are to complete?

How about dewints? Do you ALWAYS pressure test first or have you had a few that you had to clean up? I admit, I've had my share of cleaning up as maybe i didn't have my compressor with me or?? It happens!

I ALWAYS take care of it properly though.
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Definately more $$ in dry wints!
Will not do wet wints here in Montana for service companies that do not approve filling the system with cryotek/antifreeze, and for those that do approve them, I hire a licensed plumber to complete.

I always pressure test before dewints, unless I did the winterization in the first place.
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To me, profitable and wintz don't go together. They are a necessary evil IMHO. Only thing that makes them very profitable is the plumbing repairs that may accompany them. I'd much rather do an initial lawn in the summer for essentially the same price as a wint in the winter when doing initial services.
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To me, profitable and wintz don't go together.




So true. Not at today's price level by HUD.


Back in the days of the $120 to $130 range depending on state they weren't too bad.
Not like now when the average price is $60 to $80 per.

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Can someone please explain the process of winterizing to me? I'm an hvac tech who's company has merged with a home remodeling company who takes care of many foreclosed homes. All have been "Winterized" which I have no idea what that means or the process involved.

I see shrink wrap over the faucets and sinks and many notes saying the home has been Winterized. Never even heard of this prior.

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Quick summary of dry wint:
- Disconnect water meter, zip tie city side shutoff
- Let water drain out, then blow out all fixture supply lines with air
- Empty HWH, shut off breaker if necessary
- Fill all traps/toilets/etc with the pink antifreeze
- Verify if pipes hold pressure, if not, note leaks
- For these properties, pretty much always a sign on front door, every fixture, sometimes wrap over toilets(people are notorious for using toilets at foreclosures, either people looking at house, agents, contractors, etc)
- Also, photos of everything for banks.

Other liquid heat sources have an extra set of steps to drain them.

I have never seen shrink wrap over faucets/sinks here, just toilets. All of the different companies has slightly different requirements, some need signs on certain things, wrap on certain things, some certain colors of zip ties, etc.

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Can someone please explain the process of winterizing to me? I'm an hvac tech who's company has merged with a home remodeling company who takes care of many foreclosed homes. All have been "Winterized" which I have no idea what that means or the process involved.

I see shrink wrap over the faucets and sinks and many notes saying the home has been Winterized. Never even heard of this prior.

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I was with this one unamed clown years ago as he went about doing his wints for a national company and out of the 11 he had to do that day, he put plastic wrap in 6 different properties toilets and claimed the property to be "frozen" (pics actually looked like ice in toilets) then proceeded to bid them as thaws-was approved and made about 5 grand by staging propane heaters lit taking a pic and saying he thawed em- Now I told him in the long run I did not think he would be paid, dont you know a month later he showed me the check
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Crooks like that have done as much damage to this industry as the pinheads doing $35 winterizations and $25 mows.

Yes, as this point, the liability is less and the pay rate about the same if you just stay on your X Mark.
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with the current pricing of wints ,,, i go by bathroom count and by heating zone counts

a dry wint is paying 40 to 60 only profitable if its 1.5 baths or less so ill bid it on site and get 10 more per bathroom or ill leave

a wet wint is paying 80 to 100 okay only profitable at 2 heating zones or less if it has below grade ( lower than the boiler drain or under concrete lines) it costs more add 20 more per zone once again i call from site

get it approved verbally followed by an email before doing any work
no email no work

find a contractor close to you and buddy up on bulk purchases of antifreeze buy your cryotek from the plumbing supply become a registered business with

also i make a good amount of money winting RV trailers and motor homes 1/3 of the work and current market will bear 100 per in my area
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I tried getting work winterizing RVs. Offered it as a mobile service, I'll come to you so you don't have to take time to hook up and go to the RV center.

Didn't get a single phone call.

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