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01-13-2015 11:58 AM
GTX63 Make sure you put a time limit on your bids. We normally go 21 days with companies we don't do a lot of business with. If XYZ wants you to bid an overgrown lot in April and you bid $175 and then you don't hear anything, you may be gone but not forgotten. Without a deadline on your bid, well, June comes around and the city is on their back so they kick you a work order with your April price. Now the yard is 54" high and full of horseweeds.
01-13-2015 09:47 AM
PropPresPro
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Originally Posted by SMRBR549 View Post
I was looking for some new properties to start working again, I love the work and know you wont get rich, but we should get paid what we are worth, not for 209x209 plus all the ciippings gone, weed eat, and everything that goes with it for the pay of $20.00 first cut and $15.00 re cut, that is what Coast2Coast did to me in Orange Co, Indiana.
The best advice I can give you if you're going to entertain national/regional work is learn to say "no". Then when they reply with how much will you do it for, don't be timid when you tell them what your time is worth. If they don't agree, so be it - politely agree to disagree and move on to the next one, after all these companies are a dime a dozen anymore. Eventually they WILL call back and say "let's negotiate", and by that time you'll be so busy with decent paying work that your negotaions with new clients will be very simple & sound a lot like: "here's my price, I might be able to complete your job in about 3 to 4 weeks, I'll keep you posted."
01-13-2015 12:30 AM
SMRBR549
So you looking for constructors in Indiana

I was looking for some new properties to start working again, I love the work and know you wont get rich, but we should get paid what we are worth, not for 209x209 plus all the ciippings gone, weed eat, and everything that goes with it for the pay of $20.00 first cut and $15.00 re cut, that is what Coast2Coast did to me in Orange Co, Indiana.





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Good call on that one. We have another $5500 in work we are currently onsite doing for this client. They are on a 7k budget so we are working with their numbers (our terms). Plenty of saplings around the house and outbuildings. That is for another day and or/ contractor.
Regarding the CE, I can count on one hand in 15 + years the number of 4 figure mowing jobs that were approved (even using their software) thru a national. The majority were kicked back as they tried to adjust bids or negotiate down. Clients such as this one have a good history with us, and a check will be on my desk within 15 days and no questions asked. I have no confidence in a regional out of Toledo doing the same.
01-12-2015 11:07 AM
GTX63 Good call on that one. We have another $5500 in work we are currently onsite doing for this client. They are on a 7k budget so we are working with their numbers (our terms). Plenty of saplings around the house and outbuildings. That is for another day and or/ contractor.
Regarding the CE, I can count on one hand in 15 + years the number of 4 figure mowing jobs that were approved (even using their software) thru a national. The majority were kicked back as they tried to adjust bids or negotiate down. Clients such as this one have a good history with us, and a check will be on my desk within 15 days and no questions asked. I have no confidence in a regional out of Toledo doing the same.
01-12-2015 08:51 AM
PropPresPro CE estimate for the same:

155,000 sq ft IGC at 12"-24" tall = $2,154.50. All work completed by a 3rd party so no discounts apply. Money direct deposited within 15 days of results submission.

-OR-

CE $2,154.50 -10% state discount = $1,938.60. Hire a contractor to complete the work for $1,100, leaves $838.60 to contribute to my P&O expenses.

BTW, there is another $1200-1500 in CE tree trimming in that photo that would be approved and completed on the same day as well.

Disclaimer: Results not typical. But it shows that not all private work is monitarily better than nat'l service company work.

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Not a great photo but it conveys the idea. Initial grass cut on this property, approx 400'x400' lot. No bagging, trimming, clip removal etc. It is a middle of winter knock down. $1100 and our bid was okd by the owner within 48 hours.
You will not get that with a national. You will get the industry standard minus discount and qc review.

01-11-2015 04:38 PM
GTX63 Not a great photo but it conveys the idea. Initial grass cut on this property, approx 400'x400' lot. No bagging, trimming, clip removal etc. It is a middle of winter knock down. $1100 and our bid was okd by the owner within 48 hours.
You will not get that with a national. You will get the industry standard minus discount and qc review.

01-11-2015 02:37 PM
PropertyWerX, LTD. Agreed. All I am saying is $35 cut for 15,000 sq ft or less; literally takes me 20 minutes and being in town makes it even easier.
01-11-2015 01:17 PM
BPWY
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That same $35 cut was paying $70 5 years ago. Better of doing private work. No pictures, no BS and you ate actually appreciated. ....



What he said
01-11-2015 01:10 PM
mtmtnman That same $35 cut was paying $70 5 years ago. Better of doing private work. No pictures, no BS and you ate actually appreciated. ....
01-11-2015 11:30 AM
PropertyWerX, LTD.
Instead of battering the guy

I was in your shoes a few years ago - $21 grass cuts pumping out 100 cuts a week(luckily I was given all metro areas just a few suburban), I was living the high life; or so I thought! I was brand new to the P&P Industry and just came from a low pay sales job making roughly $700 week. At the time I was just me and my nephew. Would I do it over again, yes - do I have to? No! I'm getting $35+ per cut now and still pumping 70+ per week.

I would say if the prices aren't over $30/yard and the pay isn't quick(7 days or less) keep looking!
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