fas workload

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Discussion Starter · Jan 23, 2012

wondering how many vendors are staying busy with fas since they lost amh contract.

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Discussion Starter · #2 · Jan 23, 2012

Not me. Just lost all of my AMHSI snowplows last week. So now Im down to 8 properties in 150 mile route

Cripes, I remember the good ol' days when we had 35 properties and alot of snow. Such a fantastic year! Makes me wonder which vendors screw us ALL out of work. I wish they would pick up another good contract. Kinda holding out to see if some vendors drop off so I will pick up.

Oh BTW now if you have snows that dont drop you dont call your re-coord. You have to call each PM individually...ugh! Pain!

I want the old FAS days back!

david

· #3 · Jan 23, 2012

i lost all recurring maids and snow,and not a new job in over a month now,looks like i bought a smartphone for nothing,im good with them till july then problaby im done,like i told them u cant live like this no work.

BPWY

· #4 · Jan 23, 2012

They won't let you email your property managers?

I got an email last week from NVMS that told me they do not want call ins unless its an emergency. All other communication send email.

thanohano44

· #5 · Jan 23, 2012

ARpreservation said:
Not me. Just lost all of my AMHSI snowplows last week. So now Im down to 8 properties in 150 mile route Cripes, I remember the good ol' days when we had 35 properties and alot of snow. Such a fantastic year! Makes me wonder which vendors screw us ALL out of work. I wish they would pick up another good contract. Kinda holding out to see if some vendors drop off so I will pick up.

Oh BTW now if you have snows that dont drop you dont call your re-coord. You have to call each PM individually...ugh! Pain!

I want the old FAS days back!

So do I. They're forcing you out. Someone has offered to do the work for less than you...

thanohano44

· #6 · Jan 23, 2012

d+jhomeservices said:
wondering how many vendors are staying busy with fas since they lost amh contract.

Someone here posted that they cut over 1500 vendors and furloughed several hindered employees. I guess my competitions inside scoop was telling no lie.

mtmtnman

· #7 · Jan 23, 2012

I don't know how y'all made any $$$$ with FAS in the 1st place. Hell i was getting 100% QC scores from my brokers and still was getting my work picked apart!!! I consider them one of the biggest thieves in the industry. Jobs i would get $2,000 broker direct they where wanting to pay $600.

What a joke. I guess that is one of the things about working for brokers in a way. You learn what things REALLY pay and then you feel slighted when a National tries to feed you dogfood instead of steak!!!! Honestly these Nationals have cut rates SO low trying to cut each others throats there is no money in it for anyone BUT the nationals nowdays. Their 20-25% discount is more that a contractor has left in the end and what do they have for expense? A few office people in India?? Hell i wouldn't bee as bitter about the discounts if they paid immediately but they hold you out 45-90 days so they don't even have the expense of factoring!!!!!

thanohano44

· #8 · Jan 23, 2012

mtmtnman said:
I don't know how y'all made any $$$$ with FAS in the 1st place. Hell i was getting 100% QC scores from my brokers and still was getting my work picked apart!!! I consider them one of the biggest thieves in the industry. Jobs i would get $2,000 broker direct they where wanting to pay $600. What a joke. I guess that is one of the things about working for brokers in a way. You learn what things REALLY pay and then you feel slighted when a National tries to feed you dogfood instead of steak!!!! Honestly these Nationals have cut rates SO low trying to cut each others throats there is no money in it for anyone BUT the nationals nowdays. Their 20-25% discount is more that a contractor has left in the end and what do they have for expense? A few office people in India?? Hell i wouldn't bee as bitter about the discounts if they paid immediately but they hold you out 45-90 days so they don't even have the expense of factoring!!!!!

In the first 6 years, we made a KILLING with them.

mtmtnman

· #9 · Jan 23, 2012

thanohano44 said:
In the first 6 years, we made a KILLING with them.

Was this previous to the mess our country is in now??

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Discussion Starter · #10 · Jan 23, 2012

mtmtnman said:
I don't know how y'all made any $$$$ with FAS in the 1st place. Hell i was getting 100% QC scores from my brokers and still was getting my work picked apart!!! I consider them one of the biggest thieves in the industry. Jobs i would get $2,000 broker direct they where wanting to pay $600. What a joke. I guess that is one of the things about working for brokers in a way. You learn what things REALLY pay and then you feel slighted when a National tries to feed you dogfood instead of steak!!!! Honestly these Nationals have cut rates SO low trying to cut each others throats there is no money in it for anyone BUT the nationals nowdays. Their 20-25% discount is more that a contractor has left in the end and what do they have for expense? A few office people in India?? Hell i wouldn't bee as bitter about the discounts if they paid immediately but they hold you out 45-90 days so they don't even have the expense of factoring!!!!!

Trust me when I say that we would all love to be doing broker work! I know how to work up clients, generate leads, do or ect. I worked sales for years and had to self generate all of my clients. But the fact is, some areas like mine Brokers and Realtors do their own work. or their husband, son, nephew, brother in law, or friend is doing it. We know its not suppose to happen, but frankly it does. I can rattle off a dozen reo brokers and know exactly who they are hiring to do their pp work. I know several doing their own, a few sons are doing it, several spouses. It's frustrating, but that's how it is here. There may be a few Brokers who don't, and I continue to call on them.
I too did very well with Fas, and have very few complaints in the 5 yrs we've been with them.

GTX63

· #11 · Jan 23, 2012

FAS turned south about 3 years ago. They would pull work orders before they were due, while our crew was in the field and cancel the order without allowing us to update or invoice. Then we would see them shopping the job 30 days later. I wouldn't call them thieves, a thief steals behind your back. They are robbers, straight to your face.

thanohano44

· #12 · Jan 23, 2012

mtmtnman said:
Was this previous to the mess our country is in now??

After the the community agitator took office it slowly went down hill.

reoguys

· #13 · Jan 23, 2012

We worked with them 3 years ago for a month and then dropped them. Best decision ever made! They'd have us do the work and then AFTERWARDS decide the grass wasn't tall enough only to send us out to do recuts on the same lawn a week later! Had to fight for a few dollars here and there too much ... wasn't worth our time. Like many others here, we made a killing back in the day. We are very professional, always go the extra mile ... had good relationships. Now it's so cutthroat and not worth it to fight for hours for a few bucks here and there. On the other side of the coin, as a former REO agent I know that not paying on services rendered on both the agent and vendor side is a form of revenue for the banks and they have depts set up to capture all the unpaid claims/invoices and get bonused for all that can be generated by rejecting claims/invoices for the slightest excuse which is in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. This is discussed in detail at the national reo conferences. We used to have to factor in a 10% unreimbursable and now it's more like 20-30%. The name of the game is how to not pay on services already rendered. The return is very high on the newbies who don't know any better. They are taken to the cleaners. It's like Linda says ... it's all about greed from the top down. We're in the trenches and you have to know where to draw the line and hold onto your prices. That's why the shoddy work is so prevalant which will catch up with them sooner or later ... just like the zero percent loans that were made.

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Discussion Starter · #14 · Jan 25, 2012

I agree with all, been with FAS for seven years, made a killing. We were known for doing the jobs nobody else wanted or could do. How about 25 acre property with 17 cars and 900 cy of debris. Travelled 4 hours out of area and paid extra for all services cause agents requested us, but was told after we (FAS) cannot do that cause it is not fair. Was asked by FAS to travel this 4 hours to do a wint on a 2 mil home cause the vendor in the area flooded the home. Hummm do I get my out of area pricing? No, we cannot do that, Ok maybe I can go next week. Callback we can give you 500 for wint. Ok I'll go tomorrow. Spent the night at the local casino on them..

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Discussion Starter · #15 · Jan 25, 2012

Nice!

Nice for FAS too! Now someone else in the liability loop!

Nice Grab there!

mtmtnman

· #16 · Jan 25, 2012

Here's an FAS snowplow job...............

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Discussion Starter · #17 · Jan 25, 2012

FremontREO

Went back up two months later to do the dewint, no problems. Wife won 1000 at the casino. Got the hazards at 4000 nice for two days...

thanohano44

· #18 · Jan 25, 2012

mtmtnman said:
Here's an FAS snowplow job...............

FAS only requires a 25 ft plow on drive way and path to front door if snow is 3 inches or higher. If there is ice on the drive way more than 2 inches, bid as over the allowable or call in for price increase.

GTX63

· #19 · Jan 25, 2012

d+jhomeservices said:
wondering how many vendors are staying busy with fas since they lost amh contract.

We made more money doing 1/5th the work load from other nationals before we finally kicked them to the curb. Spent so much time chasing our tails over their ca ca we didn't realize it soon enough.

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Discussion Starter · #20 · Jan 25, 2012

Definitely wasn't my fas snow plow. I never push piles to the garage. Pull them and pile away from structures so there isn't any issue with thaw. Mine are so clean u can eat off the gravel when were done

nice of them to shovel the walkway, assuming qc didn't pay them or the gave photos from another job. What is it with contractors working so hard to cut corners. Just do it right!

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